Rogues in 11.1

[Locke-echo-isles]

Patch Notes

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Patch Notes (Rogue Excerpts)

@Linxy

ROGUE

• Blind and Gouge now break on a damage threshold instead of breaking on damage.
• Outlaw
  • Sleight of Hand’s bonus now also affects Roll the Bones’ chance to roll 5 combat enhancements (was only increased chance to roll 2 combat enhancements).
  • Sleight of Hand’s bonus chance for Roll the Bones to roll additional combat enhancements reduced to 12% (was 15%).

@Linxy

ROGUE

• New PvP Talent: Preemptive Maneuver – Feint decreases your damage taken by an additional 40% while stunned and its energy cost is reduced by 30%.
• Veil of Midnight (PvP Talent) has been removed.
• Outlaw
  • The following PvP talents have been removed:
    • Enduring Brawler
    • Take Your Cut
• Subtlety
  • Shadowy Duel (PvP Talent) has been removed.

My Feedback

I’m impressed with many of the changes they’re making to many of the classes (Druid, Hunter, etc). Long time coming, even if players can find niche reasons to complain about many of the changes.

Yes, it’d be nice to see more changes to Rogues on here (like bug fixes with our abilities, in particular), but Rogues are (or at least were) in a pretty good spot. Yes, lots of talents taken away from PvP which may be “devastating” to players that were reliant upon them, but I imagine many of those talents were just straight-up frustrating to play against. Rogues have also generally been dealing great damage in pretty much every spec for the entirety of season 1.

There are still a lot of fundamental changes and improvements I’d like to see (like Outlaw not relying on stealth at all for its DPS output), but I believe Rogue’s “turn” will come soon (sooner if it’s struggling on DPS meters).

[Mafic-emerald-dream (Mafic)]

The Rogue changes are incomplete so we will have to see what new PVP talents come into to replace the departed ones.

[Slippinjimmy-moon-guard]

Rogue dev needs to be fired.