Rogues and wpvp

so listen, i look away for a second and this rogue deletes me in seconds. come on man. just nerf this crap already.

edit: im going to edit this post because quite a few people miss the point. 1. my bad for posting on my druid. i wasnt playing on my druid when this happened. 2. the point of the post is, I LOOKED AT MY SECOND SCREEN AFTER TURNING IN A QUEST, REALIZED I WAS BEING ATTACKED, LOOKED OVER AND BEFORE I COULD REACT I WAS DELETED. A FEW SECONDS. ffs forum readers. learn to comprehend.

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It’s scheduled to be heavily nerfed in 9.1

The 100% crit leggo is getting its duration reduced by 40% so only 2 ish globals will be crits, also cold blood is being removed which will reduce their burst even more.

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So Blizz is toning down things that, if I’m being honest, rogue shouldn’t have had (with regards to the crit leggo). But are they gonna do anything about their ability to restealth/reset? Because if not, that just sounds like we get to die slower. I mean we get a little more of a fighting chance, but once we use trinket and things don’t look good.

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They also nerfed the restealth conduit. It will only help for a few seconds before it falls off and dots knock rogues out of stealth again (instead of it being perma)

a druid complaining about a rogue … lololololoolooololololololol

go play outside

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They need to nerf vanish somehow, no class has a get out of jail free card like that. It’s toxic in wpvp and arena.

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Paladins have a get out of jail free card technically. :thinking:

So do Hunters if you feign death + camo.

The only thing I hate about rogues this expansion is the conduit that gives them an absorption shield or whatever when they restealth. If you have a DoT on them and they’re running that conduit, doesn’t matter if the damage ticks on them. It won’t break the shield and they’ll still be able to walk away lol.

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Are you really saying vanish and bubble are comparable in world pvp? Rogues literally are beyond broken in world pvp, they can get out of any fight anytime wait for cds and then go again lol. Pallys can’t reset for sh1t, and I hope you do realize wpvp is about resets…

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Honestly I don’t think rogues are that broken compared to Arms Warriors, Ret Paladins, and Feral/Boomkin druids lol.

The self heals and damage of druids and paladins are ridiculous lol. I don’t think vanish is a problem, but their conduit for the absorption shield is really stupid.

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Are they going to do anything about you being able to constantly port roll around and kite heal to full and engage in combat again?

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Are you really complaining about rogues? Dude they literally can’t beat ferals, and if they open on Moonkins they barely win that if at all.

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Please don’t tell me you’re comparing the strength of a monk’s reset to a rogue’s reset because they’re just day and night.

People are seriously still making an effort to log in to the forums, create an an entire post, just to be complaining about Rogues??? Let alone in Warmode. I hate to be that guy, but seriously… just turn off Warmode.

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You’re 210 ilvl, geared rogues are supposed to delete you.
Get 220 or 226 and with necrolord you’ll never die.

By heavily this dude means 1-2 more globals maybe

Also this dude uses another language if that means ‘heavily nerfed’

Yeah let’s nerf what is literally the defining feature of the rogue class. You have absolutely no idea what it’s like to be a rogue clearly. We can’t stand and fight. We rely on stuns and vanish to not get 100 to zeroed in 5 seconds flat. We are absolute glass cannons, and sub rogues are only able to burst from stealth or during shadowdance. Your bubbles are a perfect counter to our openers. If you survive the open after a vanish we are toast because we can’t stand toe to toe with you. I have more trouble with pally and druids then any other class. If you can’t fight equally geared rogues then that’s a you problem not a balance problem. Sub is getting absolutely gutted in 9.1. I’m already playing assassination to prepare. I’ll have to run with a healer in 2s because of assasinations poor survivability.

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SERIOUS NERF THEM NOW!

Dots should NOT fade of with Vanish. They should NOT be able to deal stupid amounts of damage, heal, and before my CD’s are off, stun lock me instantly. Why are Rogues always so broken. Their heal ability NEEDS removed. They should have never been able to heal in the first place.

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Dude you literally are playing a hard counter to rogues, as much as I hate to be that guy…you just have to get better. Learn how to kill rogues, keep fighting rogues. Keep putting yourself in those situations and learn what is required to come out on top. And if you’re complaining about dying in the open world because you looked away then just turn warmode off or don’t look away if you’re making yourself a target to begin with ? Idk

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I agree that dots shouldn’t fade with vanish, but not every class should have a dot either. Maybe I’m wrong, but it feels like every single class can dot a rogue now a days, and vanish w/o dropping dots would be near impossible. I 100% agree that rogues should either be able to take you out of the game or burst you, but they shouldn’t be able to do both. Which is why they need to redefine the specs of rogue IMO.

I’m not sure what he’s saying b/c I can’t speak for him, but yeah they are. Neither of you can die in those moments. The big difference is, while your in a bubble you can pop all your cd’s and still get a kill.