Can we make them somehow no longer mandatory (not much exaggeration here) for RBGs?
How many classes can say they get a free pass in all content in every expansion besides Rogues (and maybe Druids)? Does it need to extend to RBGs too?
Let’s make stealth a 2 minute CD that lasts for 20 seconds.
Maybe give 8 classes an ability like Spectral Sight? Maybe all classes.
It didn’t seem to help Demon Hunters, lmao
I just don’t think there should be a single class that always has a spot. Blizzard needs to maybe think of redesigning Rogues imo. It is a huge outlier in RBGs.
boomkins too. boomkins having 1 is mandatory, 2 is almost mandatory 3+ is still completely legit and often still better than any other form of spec diversity.
Can we just remove rogues from the game?
Most toxic spec in pvp. Literal rage inducing.
Cc and 100 to 0, or they just vanish and come back for another go.
This is true too.
-notices your kidney-
OwO what’s this
If any devs read this thread please completely disregard OPs opinion.
Stealth is literally the quintessential rogue ability above all others, it’s been almost unchanged for 15 years and for good reason, it’s okay exactly the way it is.
Just buff dh spectral sight somehow on an honor talent.
What exactly are you envisioning a rogue to be?
Idk, maybe a class that isn’t such a draw to cowards that are terrified of PvP?
Weird take.
Fixed to give credit to Doors
You should give Doors credit if you are gonna quote him.
You’re right! I couldn’t remember his name. Edited.
Also fr OP I stopped playing Sub because of the reasons you described. The playstyle is not really fun for anyone, even if it works great when it does work.
Yeah, I don’t have a problem with Rogues play style in arena, I get it. Bgs are full of 2 minute Rogues. They are fully confident in fighting for 8 seconds every two minutes. It quite literally attracts cowards. Probably why the class color is yellow.
Sucks having an RBG spot guaranteed for this imo.
I think the hardest three spots to fill for RBGs would be…
A competent Rogue, a competent Boomy and (as ridiculous as this sounds) a competent tank.
So many really bad Boomy and Rogue players rolling around since they get invited to all groups. Tanks also have this problem.
I just staunchly disagree with this. Rogues are essentially the Special Ops players in RBGs. A good one is going to change the entire flow of the game, while hardly ever being near the main fighting. They have enough damage just often enough that it has to be used at the right time.
The class design of rogue makes it of huge strategical importance and gives the games depth.
Yes. And I have seen maybe 4 or 5 of these types of Rogues all season. They are uncommon. We don’t actually disagree on how Rogues should operate or what their role is. We, apparently, don’t see eye to eye on them being promised a spot in RBGs since they are the only class that brings this massive tool kit.
Ah I gotcha. Idk man there’s always gonna be a meta. Just how it is
Sure. But seeing as I play something that is not desirable for RBGs I am complaining about a spec that has a birthright to content and I wish it weren’t so.
This really hits home when I continually see…
Rogues that can’t force defensives from FCs or they let them cross the field untouched, do less damage than Disc Priests (see this regularly when we pug Rogues), can’t take bases even with a Boomy helping etc. A good Rogue can win a game, and they exist absolutely. They just don’t grow on trees. Unfortunately FotM rerollers do.