A touch shortsighted, since it is both temporary, and unnecessary when everyone can temp ignore that person until actual Customer Service can assess the situation.
The biggest problem with ignoring a person and reporting them separately is that you use one of a limited number of ignore slots, and reporting them would take time.
The issue has become that right click reporting has been abused to silence critics or people that a group doesn’t like. Automation is a necessity, but auto-squelch after x amount of reports has been abused to silence people who don’t actually deserve to be muted. This is the abuse mentioned.
If RCR is tied to an auto squelch, IMO, a great deterrent to abuse would be punishing everyone that submits a report leading to a squelkch that us subsequently overturned upon manual review. After all, if the squelch is overturned, lizard felt there was no violation.
All those people that plan to collude to report with the intent to squelch everyone that has the audacity to use /trade for things other than buying or selling of goods and/or services would be far less likely to do so if they risked being silenced every time they submitted those false reports.
The same goes for all those other situations which might involve abuse of the RCR system.
Again, if enough people are reporting them to the point that they get squelched, it’s probably because of something that they did. When people are getting silenced, they need to look at the common element to why enough people reported them, and that common element is themselves.
To give some context: I’m the minority on this forum, most of the people arguing against this or against pretty much anything else do not side with me. I have 0 posts that had to be hidden, despite being very hated on these forums for my opinions of classic and the direction it should take.
It’s not as common or as easy as you want to think for these things to be abused.
I completely agree. I want to see it happen. Only then will I believe blizz punishes the abusers. No one can provide a shred of evidence that they have.
If it only takes 5-10 reports to trigger an auto squelch, that is hardly what I would consider a “large number” or a majority of the community.
If Johnny and 4-9 of his cronies can collude to squelch any other player, at any time, for any reason, I would not say that a squelch is an indication that the squelched playet “deserved it” or committed any violation.
People don’t advertise everytime they are punished, why would Blizzard let abusers of this system not be punished the same as they punish abusers of every other game system?
“While we encourage you to report players that are behaving in a disrespectful manner, falsely reporting another player with the sole intent of restricting their gameplay is also unacceptable and will result in penalties to your account.”
It’s a warning, but to date, I have never heard of anyone being punished for this sort of behavior abusing RCR. And I’m from a roleplaying server, where squelching happens with alarming regularity in large numbers.
Does your boss tell you when a coworker gets written up?
Blizzard is not going to come on here and publicly announce a player that was punished for abusing it. And most people punished for abusing it aren’t going to come and tell us for no reason.
Blizzard has integrity with their rules. Trust them that people DO get punished, but they’re never going to announce it and call that person out.
Notice that I said “IF”, not “it only takes 5-10”.
Can you provide a source to substantiate your implications that it takes a massive number of reports to trigger a squelch? Can you provide ANY source that it takes more than 5 or 10 reports to trigger a squelch?
We do not know how many it takes. It could be 5, 10 or 100. We do not know.
We have seen video evidence that it could be as low as 10 reports, or even less.
We’ve had posters other threads say that they tested and were able to trigger a squelch with a mere 10 players submitted reports. That is anecdotal and they do not provide screenshots, so you can take that with a grain of salt.
I would not assume, however, that it takes a massive number of reports to trigger a squelch.
Maybe because proving the abuse is often extremely difficult.
Look at the poster that plans to collude with his cronies to report every player that had the audacity to use /trade for things other than the buying or selling of goods and/or services with the intent to squelch them. That poster has stated that they intend to hide in the grey area of subjectivity–“Honest, Blizzard. We didn’t report with the intent to squelch. We honestly thought he was SPAMMING.”.
Why would they keep it so low that it can be easily abused?
Blizzard isn’t dumb. It’s probably a high enough number that it takes a solid group of people feeling the need to report, but low enough that it does address the issue.
Yes, that’s the sort of transparency I need to hear if a coworker is being disruptive and for me to continue to feel comfortable in that environment. Would you feel comfortable working for a company where co workers’ underhanded dealings are kept quiet?
I don’t think so.
The difference is that Blizzard is not my boss. I don’t work for Blizzard. I am one of Blizzard’s customers and Blizzard’s a company that is protecting it’s other customers when it doesn’t tell you or I what happens to other people. Only we, the community can talk about it, and guess what, when people are victims of RCR, they talk about it.
Blizzard is more likely to believe that the mob was correct in reporting you, than actually read into the posts and find your message that broke their rules.
We know this because Blizzard’s been pared down to a smaller crew than back in actual Vanilla WoW, who had to read every individual ticket and fill out reams of paperwork. Automation has made their system faster, but not necessarily better.
Yes, because that’s none of my business. I’d actually be MORE uncomfortable at a job like that because that means that any talk I have with my boss everyone hears about.
And once again, odds are, if they were “victims” of RCR, it was probably because of something that they did. Seriously, how is EVERYBODY that’s silenced somehow completely innocent? Do you seriously think there’s a guild out there thinking “let’s silence that guy Manzo, just because?”