No, I assume that there is a segment of the population that is well aware that the system works in a particular fashion that can be manipulated to their advantage and, since there is no reason not to do so, they will abuse the system at times to gain said advantage. The entire point is that there doesn’t actually have to be a violation for the auto-squelch to punish a player if an organized segment of the population chooses to do so.
it doesn’t help any that current Blizzard CS practice appears to be to rubber stamp any such incidents and send out a stock e-mail rather than actually reviewing the case and pointing out exactly what text someone may have posted was in violation of the CoC when asked about a squelch…
100% this. Blizzard makes the rules, it should be 100% up to them to decide that a rule has been broken and administer the appropriate punishment. Right click reporting with a quick drop list for what general rule has been violated is perfectly fine. Mobs silencing people because Johnny said to or so they’ll get DCed out of a battleground or whatever is not acceptable.
And I have a nice log of stock emails with no explanation when I specifically requested said explanation as I was silenced with no indication such as post removal or moderation of which post, let alone the specific content of a post may have been in violation and triggered a forum ban…
You keep saying this yet looking through the notes for every patch in 2007 there is no mention of right-click reporting, let alone any indication of it being linked to some sort of authoritarian automated punishment system. Thus I’ll be forced to conclude you are living in a fantasy land unless you can provide some sort of proof that such a system was actually in place in that time frame. In any case, though, the existence and abusability of such a system (if it existed) was not well known among the players of the time, unlike today.
One can only extrapolate from a comment such as this is that the people who you assume are the children in this debate are also the ones you happen to disagree with. That’s very adult of you.
I could argue that a lot of people like myself who have been gaming since the early 80s, and online for over 25 years, are particularly hardened to mean words online, and are finding out what the world is like now that children who have been taught that running to the teacher is better than dealing with your own problems are “growing up” and trying to cleanse the internet of anybody but their ideological allies, lest they suffer great emotional distress from the violence perpetuated against them… by words.
But back to the original point. Expand ignore list infinitely and give it timed options (mins/hours/days/weeks/perm). If you must keep RCR, make it for reporting gold sellers only.
I hate the system as the only thing it brings about is ease of use which is countered by its ease of abuse; thus making it a system with no benefits over not existing.
It’s not just chat that people abuse it with its also players seeing a a character with a name they want and reporting them for “offensive name” just so they can take it, or just to DC someone to ruin their fun.
And blizz can be kinda dumb when it comes to name violations as a toon can be called "ShiftHappens"and not get flagged for rename whereas a toon called “DrunkDwarf” is so offensive it must be renamed immediately…
But whatever it’s Blizzards decision on if its in game or not… But If they are going to keep it in Classic what they need to do is up the punishment for abuse of the system.
So I’d say
1st time abusing RCR should net the abusers 48 hour bans and 15% of their Classic wow characters gold mailed to the abused party. As well as after the 48 hour ban a Debuff called RCR abuser preventing the player from talking in all chat channels and entering bgs or dungeon content for 48 hours.
2nd offense 2 week ban and 50% of their Classic wow characters gold mailed to the abused party. As well as after the 2 week ban a Debuff called repeat RCR abuser preventing the player from talking in all chat channels and entering bgs or dungeon content for 2 weeks.
3rd offense permanent ban and 100% of Classic wow characters gold mailed to the abused. With no chance for appeals.
And when I say Classic wow characters gold I mean every Classic wow character they have on the server where they did the abuse.
Also the gold is their to compensate the person who received the abused RCR.
With a system like this in place the only time people would be willing to RCR someone would be if there was an actual violation.
This is a fair compromise of keeping RCR but making it so anyone doing RCR better be sure it’s something re-portable or they will face more severe punishment that an actual re-portable offense would receive.
And if for whatever reason RCR is being abused like 1-2 months into the game just remove the feature all together…
Hope everyone has/had a nice day depending on when you read this.
I’m with you on punishing fake reports, but the gold mailing thing is weird, and would only punish people with a lot of gold, and therefore that aspect would only be effective on rich players. Also I wouldn’t be surprised if someone figured out a way to get people to fake report them so they get free gold. I’m sure it would be hard to achieve, but it would definitely provide huge incentive to figure out a way to do it.
The only reason I suggest the mailing of gold is lets say you still have to wait 24-32 hours for a gm to review and remove the squelch; you basically got punished for a day or more for doing nothing and don’t get any compensation.
After about 3-4 times of that happening people will just start quitting.
So even if you did nothing wrong you still get punished in other MMOs like eve they give you some form of compensation as a way of saying we are sorry you got punished for nothing.
But hey they could leave out the gold thing; I just thought it might be nice for people who get un justifiably squelched to get some kind of compensation.
And it would also de insensitive abuse of RCR even further than just the bans.
Seeing as the abused couldn’t properly communicate with in game communication methods during a squelch and would more or less be limited to solo activities. So getting something as an apology for limiting your activities would help “lessen the sting”.
That’s just my thoughts though and I’m sure people could take the idea and improve it/add to it.
yeah this
