Nah, sorry.
And bad faith trolls hide behind this lame argument so that they can continue being bigots. Not you specifically, but in these threads Iāve had people explicitly tell me that they donāt like the idea of RCR because it would limit their ability to call people the N-word. Iāve had people point blank refuse to agree with the statement āracism is badā with no other context or strings attached. Iāve had people refuse to say what their personal opinion on bigotry is. If reporting something I disagree with includes reporting all caps spamming the N word in the barrens, and people want to discuss if that is REALLY offensive or just me being a liberal soy-boy or whatever, go nuts. Iām not going to bother listening.
While there is a legitimate concern that this system might be abused and impact game play, and Iām happy to discuss those concerns with people, there is a contingent of people against it that are against it specifically because it limits their ability to be overt racists in an anonymous setting. THATS why the system has merits. Welcome to the real world, most people donāt want to play games with bigots, and blizzard is trying to make a platform for that.
Iāve already witnessed bothā¦so yeah, sorry
Nah, didnāt happen. If youāre paranoid of being reported, thatās your problem. The system is fine and is going forward as is.
First, you should have no.problem finding and providing quotes of those people explicitly saying that. Alternatively, you can admit that you are being deliberately dishonest.
Iām not saying that no one said that. It is up to you to substantiate your claim, however.
Second, even if some people did explicitly say that (and Iām not saying that no one did), those people do it speak for everyone.
IMO, anyone using that N-word or other racial slurs should absolutely be reported and punished for using that N-word or racial slurs. I simply believe that ANY punishment, including a squelch, should be administered by Blizzard and not the players.
I wasnāt replying to you, and I will happily acknowledge that you are one of the people I mention who has concerns about the impact of the system through it being abused and have had rational ideas for how to address those concerns.
Right around post 30 a guy starts saying heās upset because āthese days youre not even allowed to say the n wordā
Thatās just one person that is included in the anti-auto-squelch crowd. 100%, I get that most of the people arenāt that, but still, itās definitely there.
I rarely try to be blatantly dishonest in these threads. Youāve participated in enough of these 1000+ post threads that if youāre being honest, you know youāve seen people who donāt like the system because they want to be able to say whatever they want. Again, I know that isnāt you and I never said it was. But racists exist, and Iām okay with blizzard trying to mitigate their presence in the game.
Because the people saying it are
My experience is that the kid who gets dunked in world PVP or streamers, are the ones who strike out by abusing and harassing their betters, because they canāt handle the fact that they lost. Those are the people who need to be RCRād.
First, thank you for that link. Either I missed that post, or simply threw it my mental āthat should be reported and punishedā trash bin. I did not recall having seen anyone explicitly stating that they did not want to be limited in their use of the N-word. I wanted to ensure that you were not āexaggeratingā to trybto boost your position.
I know and acknowledge that racists exist and that there are people that are concerned about being reported for violating the EULA. IMO, anyone violating the EULA should be reported and punished.
We also know that there are those that want to be the ones to administer their own punishment, even if that is only a squelch and even if no actual violation was committed.
So 1500 posts into a thread that was meant to be āHey a blue post in the Beta forumā, it seems like it comes down to a few opinions:
- Freedom! - āThey can take our Vendorstrikes, but theyāll never take our CURSE WORDS!ā
- Needed - People are crappy to each other and we need the ability to report that, plus GMs are too slow.
- Cost Effective - Blizzard isnāt going to pay for GMs to review every ticket at a decent speed.
- Abused - People are going to abuse the system and use streams or Discord to mass report with no repercussions.
- Why not Ignore - We have the ignore function, so why not use it instead.
To my mind, this comes down yet again to community. On a server with a good healthy community, people are not going to feel the need to RCR someone into the ground for whatever cheap reason. On a server with a bad trollish community or one built around a streamer personality, RCR will be abused into the ground.
My solution: Donāt roll on streamer servers.
Yeah, there are, and those people are . I wish blizzard would provide even a tiny bit of transparency regarding what they do in cases of people appealing squelches that are just victims of targeted troll reporting.
That was my point as well, if something can be abused then it will be.
So since itās not being abused now it canāt be abused?
It is being abused in retail.
We have seen video evidence and seen personal accounts.
Some people choose to ignore that evidence, but the evidence exists.
I donāt consider 1 streamer intentionally trying to get silenced abuse.
First, did those that reported him abuse the system?
As I said, some choose to ignore video evidence of the system being abused. Admitting that the system is being abused would not further their goal.
Secondly, that is not the only video evidence that has been presented.
lol reread that last paragraph, autocorrect made a funny :O)
Thank you for the heads up.
You are correct that it was humorous, but hopefully I made no other mistakes and it is corrected now.
anytime my friend :O)
Iām actually more surprised that certain people did not jump on my mistake to report me (or at least, apparently not enough of them did to cause any negative problems for me).
Maybe you have an overly inflated sense of how much people care about what you say?
Seems to be a common problem among people who complain about RCR.