So again I ask.
Who defines offensive?
I find the entire PC movement offensive.
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The community does. And even though Iām far more liberal about peopleās ability to speak their mind than some other posters, RCR is still required to provide a reprimand to those who have no filter and have no respect for others.
Especially since getting ignored by someone is often seen by trolls as a badge of honor or the āwin conditionā.
Official Code of Conduct text (itās changed yet again):
Communication
When participating in communication of any kind (chat, voice communication, group finder), you are responsible for how you express yourself. You may not use language that could be offensive or vulgar to others.
Hate speech and discriminatory language is inappropriate, as is any obscene or disruptive language. Threatening or harassing another player is always unacceptable, regardless of language used. Violating any of these expectations will result in account restrictions. More serious and repeated violations will result in greater restrictions.
I should add Iāve never reported anyone for language before or after RCR, I follow the code of conduct and the rules regarding chat in game and have never had so much as a warning (although private channels like guild if that chat was in a public channel we all would have deserved actions taken on our accounts)
This is why throughout most of my WoW time, we always had an āAfterDarkā or similar channel, where people were free to say whatever and be judged by their peers.
Thatās the line that kills me.
It basically says that any chatting is punishable.
Thatās not a rule, thatās an a-sscover clause.
And itās usually interpreted by GMs as a āreasonable personā clause. You might get temporarily squelched for talking trash in General, but you wonāt get banned for it.
And if you constrain yourself to private channels and guild, you never even encounter RCR.
Define āreasonable person.ā
These days people seem to consider āreasonableā as having more ink and metal than face, and not being able to decide if you are male or female.
Frankly I donāt much trust anyone to be āreasonable.ā
Stop saying āDefine Xā. Because itās clear you intend to speak in ways you know will offend the average person. And since you know the rules and effects, and choose to do so anyway, thatās your own damn problem.
Youāre making the āWhy can society tell me what to doā argument, in a video game. And the answer remains the same.
Society can tell you what to do, because society holds all the benefits you want.
If you donāt care about the benefits of playing WoW, then simply cuss out everyone, get banned, and walk away.
As of now I will be doing precisely that. If Blizzard insists on keeping the automated punishment tied to rt-click reporting in Classic then my $15/month will not be coming their way. If they wise up and get rid of it then that may change but I really have little hope that it will be the case. The days when they actually cared about customer service are well and truly gone with no sign of making a return. Itās all about cost cutting and profit maximizing these daysā¦
Define āaverage person.ā
I mean do you consider yourself average? Weāve been sitting here having a conversation for how long now? No one has tossed the checkers, and no one is going to be seeing a therapist afterward.
Iām sure there is someone here not a part of the conversation that is highly offended though. Someone pretty much always is.
Did you have a problem with the right-click report system in the last 12 years itās been active? Why such the hard stance now?
Not you.
And we are all bound by a draconian wording filter that prevents what youād like to be saying. And even then you managed to push the boundaries enough for a GM to give you a 2 week timeout.
Also, Iām pretty hard to offend.
Well I quit after cata. Other than a 3 week return to see how bad WoD was.
Frankly people are a lot more easily offended these days than they were in 2011.
Also I thought the entire purpose of these server was to recreate the 2004 feelā¦
Which is perfectly fine if the one(s) determining whether you are actually breaking the rules and implementing any punishment are neutral parties. I have no problem with rcr as long as any punishment, no matter how ātrivialā some might find it, is handled by a neutral party actually viewing the behavior in question and ruling on it and not some blatantly abusable system like the auto-squelch.
Well the only difference in something being āoffensiveā and being ānot offensiveā is how petty you want to be about it, or how much you intend to let misc people online get to you.
Using āsomeone might be offendedā as a rule in and of itself is a pretty absurd concept. Iād be fine with an itemized list. Still canāt get behind RCR as anything other than an extended and possibly temporary ignore list however.
These days people use āoffensiveā and āsomething I disagree withā rather interchangably.
Oh, no. The entire purpose was to recreate the mechanics, not the feel.
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People have always been offended over things. Back in the day people would get offended when a colored person would drink out of the same water fountain as them.
This pretty much.
RCR turn conversation into āyou need to talk a popularity vote to speak.ā
I frankly donāt care if 70% of the people reading what I say disagree with me, or if 1/4 of those people get offended. Iām not running for office Iām trying to have a damn conversation.
Thatās all it is until a GM comes around and looks at what you saidā¦
The difference is the auto squelch.