1 out of 10 people isn’t enough to get action against you. I already said people say things in the current game that don’t get reported because not enough people care to do so, so you’re making a fuss over nothing if you truly think most people won’t report you.
A small group of people can’t get you actioned unless you said something seriously worth doling out a punishment for and the person who reviews the report decides as much.
Well how many people are actually getting unfairly silenced? VS how many people got silenced and it was well deserved?
I think they’re separate issues. I’m no fan of censorship, but automated censorship that doesn’t even differentiate between guilty and innocent is an even bigger problem.
Wouldn’t get reported, or wouldn’t have your account actioned? It literally takes only ONE person to not be fine with it for you to get a report.
I actually don’t think most people have an issue with vulgar language. Swearing, in particular, that is.
What people seem to have an issue with is political opinions.
That depends on how many people there are.
10 people, 1 report? Probably not.
10,000 people, 1,000 reports? Probably.
Actually, they can, because the actions are automated.
Any more than zero is too many.
Well I did say keeping RCR purely for gold spammers would be ok. I’ve said that a few times. I’ve also mentioned how I’d like a relaxed EULA earlier in this thread once or twice.
So if there’s a thousand people online and 100 people report you, then that’s not enough? Yeah I seriously doubt that.
Which is an unreasonable goal, people were unfairly banned and squelched prior to RCR.
Is it? It’s fairly easy to just not automate the punishments.
That somehow justifies more unfair punishments?
Okay? And why is allowing people to blatantly violate the TOS in chat a better option?
I would be totally cool if blizzard wanted to hire enough staff to actually review every issue in a timely manner. But they won’t and didn’t in vanilla. So RCR is a better situation than nothing.
Ignore is still an option. It’s not either RCR or complete chaos.
And it doesn’t work as it doesn’t provide any reason for people to not say something in the first place.
I think you know that’s not an argument that’s going to sway my opinion heh.
And how is just letting people say whatever they want in chat with no consequences a better position?
It’s a difference of opinion. I prefer to use ignore if someone bothers me. You prefer people to get punished if they don’t self-censor, despite the bar for punishment being as low as vulgar language, even if you personally wouldn’t use it for that purpose, it’s still available.
While I might see a few less dirty jokes I might laugh at in chat that is a small sacrifice for not seeing other things like gold seller spam or true hate speech etc…
Of course in a guild i see any chat I want ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
You do you I guess. I honestly wish there was a way we could both be happy. I want everyone to be able to play the game with the community they want. Nothing short of servers with their normal EULA and RCR, and servers with no speech rules at all will result in everyone being satisfied.
This comes off akin to getting angry that people take initiative to pick up litter, clean up after natural disasters, shovel their elderly neighbor’s sidewalk, rescue animals from shelters and such. It is such a comically absurd and fabricated reason, which gets no less genuine the more you post it. Nobody buys it, friend.
Yes which is why i think squelched text and giving people the option to unsqluech text is a good middle ground. That doesn’t screw over people who want to violate the TOS in chat but does give fair warning to everyone about what they might say.
You’re saying that nobody buys an idea that MANY people hold in regards to free speech. If you come in and start shouting down somebody I am trying to listen to, then you’re not the moral equivalent of a person shoveling their neighbours sidewalk.
Terrible analogy though. Thanks for that.
Yeah again, I would accept that, but it does go against your idea that you want people to self-censor. You would have had to have read what the person said before their text was squelched. I’m aware that someone might get a text squelch before you personally see it, but you know what I mean.
Well no it doesn’t. By just suppressing text and giving individual players the ability to see it that let’s people say whatever they want without being completely shut out but if I as an individual don’t want to see their junk I won’t.