In regards to gameplay, yes. I would argue that this isn’t part of the gameplay though.
It’s community related. If you feel so strongly about something, you should spend 30 seconds dealing with it. That way people may be more inclined to just use ignore unless it’s particularly heinous. And again, I’d just ignore, except gold spam or people trying to steal accounts etc.
False. There have been no cuts to the GM staff in many years. RCR was implemented in 2007 because it was a more effective way of dealing with Gold Spam. Every single report is reviewed by a human working at Blizzard.
That is punishing the victim though.
And again, everyone agreed to certain rules when they log in.
Bit of a stretch to say it’s punishment. I mean how often do you report someone, and how long does it really take to write 2 sentences about how they wronged you. You’ve replied to me about 10 times in the past few minutes. masochist ![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=6" ":stuck_out_tongue:")
It’s punishing the victim who has to go out of their way to report something done to them.
Furthermore I would type more than two sentences in a report, and it would be a huge pain in the butt if I have to do it in the middle of a losing battleground (where a lot of those reports are done, folks get particularly nasty in that setting) where I would instead prefer to be fighting and trying to turn the game around.
RCR is just quicker and cleaner. I don’t see any good reason for it to go away.
Can’t believe this is still going on. You guys sure love to talk up the community, but a proven to work community policing tool is bad? There’s not one solid, workable argument against its implementation. It’s a net gain for everyone who hits the very low bar of don’t be a jerk in public.
No one will report you if you don’t actually say anything worth reporting. It’s not some censorship boogeyman, it’s not here to wrongly punish people. Never mind the fact it actually requires people to report you to even work. I see plenty of obscene things in Trade chat and those people don’t get punished because not enough people cared to report.
It only works as far as people use it. So don’t use it, don’t report people yourself. That’s one less person working against you, and that goes for everyone here who supports that position.
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That’s fine. I’m of the opposite opinion. I don’t mind people talking trash, even if it is abusive. Don’t really do it myself, but I’d miss it if they were banned. Don’t like sterile online gaming experiences.
Nor do I. You seem to think I would report every bad word I see, which isn’t the case.
I do, however, think certain things cross a line though and don’t belong in this game. Like gold spam, death threats, and suicide suggestions.
But as always ignore does nothing to stop someone from being a dbag in the first place. RCR does.
Can RCR be improved sure, but it does serve as a deterrent.
It’d be a more accurate analogy to say you’re going to kick someone out of EVERYONE’S house because you don’t like smoking.
That’s the problem with RCR, and more specifically with the attached automated punishments. If there were no automatic punishments, RCR would be mostly harmless.
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Never said you would. Someone in this thread said they would report people for making chuck norris jokes. The bar is certainly different for everybody.
Gold spam I’m fine with. Death threats are illegal. Suicide suggestions are a personal matter. I wouldn’t do it or report against it. That’s me.
Too. Many. Contradictory statements. BRain. CanT. Handle it.
I guess you’re an authoritarian too but the “good” kind, because you want people to write a ticket instead of using RCR.
Yeah but then self-censoring becomes pathological and a lot of the banter you would otherwise see doesn’t even begin. I think they should relax the EULA a bit to be honest.
Oh, is this argument back onto the auto-squelch portion of RCR? I thought we were talking about vulgar language and Blizzard’s rules?
Ahh, okay. Still about Blizzard’s rules and not about the auto-squelch.
What is wrong with self censoring? Do you run around shouting whatever garbage comes to the top of your mind all the time? This is something everyone should have learned by the time they were maybe 5 years old.
The concept that people should behave in a manner the society thinks is acceptable is nothing new to WoW.
No I don’t. But I don’t want to have to fear being removed because of a word that most people think is fine but some don’t. Again. A relaxed EULA Would be nice.
Here’s a tip. If most people were fine with you saying it, you wouldn’t get reported.
That’s simply not true. 90% of people could be fine, and 10% could not be, and the 10% would hand out a report.
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I agree with this completely. Outside of threats and telling people to off themselves, I’d be fine with Blizzard games having no language enforcement. I grew up with extremely vulgar parents and that’s carried over to me; I don’t care about distasteful language.
As I’ve been saying for months, people’s issue lies in Blizzard’s rules. You’re not going to convince them to remove their rule enforcement system that has been in the game since 2007 and was primarily put in place to report Gold Spam. You need to change the culture at Blizzard and that is going to be 10x more difficult to do than it was to get them to develop a Classic server option.