You also can’t duct tape the mouth of a person yelling fire in a burning building because it’s"too loud and it hurts my ears."
But I doubt you understand that.
You can if there’s a fire.
Just to be clear, I’m not advocating for censorship. I think trying to monitor speech in the way they do is a stupid, evil idea.
That said, WoW is not like a public park at all.
Yes, actually, you can. If there’s a fire, for example.
Yelling “fire!” is not “speech.” Speech, in the context of freedom of speech, means the expressions of ideas and opinions.
Yelling “fire!” is a call to action, not an expression of ideas or opinions.
No, no duct tape. . You will be arrested.
Again, see… you don’t get anything that is not centered on YOU.
Don’t bother replying directly to me. Don’t even know why I bothered to reply to you honestly.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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It is if you want to have an actual community.
RCL just creates an environment where people goad each other to try to get the other guy punished.
Hell lets look at the largest current usage of automated punishments. League of Legends. Every third damn game is a premade harrassing someone until they say something back to 3 man report them.
That crap doesn’t belong in Vanilla wow.
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Are we so daft as to not understand the implied meaning of that statement when arguing with someone who values their ability to speak over someone else?
Na, ya knew what I meant.
So not only do we have to mind read, our mind reading has to meet your personal standards for decency?
And this is my issue. In this situation you both just RCL the other guy, and the person with more friends wins. instead of getting the hell over it and ignoring each other.
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Again, not saying I approve of censorship, but WoW is not a public space, and Blizzard is not the government.
It’s perfectly reasonable to make the case they shouldn’t censor speech, but drawing comparisons to spaces where speech has legal protections is only doing your argument harm.
The implied meaning that “freedom of speech is not universal,” you mean? Yes, I knew what you meant, which is why I corrected you.
You’re wrong. Freedom of speech does protect all speech. Yelling “fire!” in a crowded space is NOT speech.
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Oh I never said it was legally applicable. Just that it’s my opinion that is should apply if you want a functioning community.
Aye. Should and does are different things, though.
I’d have nothing short of high praise for Blizzard if they changed their TOS and said all speech, no matter how hateful, repugnant, or offensive, is allowed.
But arguing that they should do that just because that sort of speech is legally protected in public spaces is never going to go anywhere, because they’re two different kinds of spaces: one public, one private.
Make the argument for why free speech is a good thing, not just “because you can’t censor people in public parks.”
For me it’s difficult to sort the folks on here that are anti free speech from the folks in RL who are the same. They act identically. Both groups want to censor people because it might “offend someone.”
Frankly I find the entire thing a load of bull, and just tell the lot of them to get the heck over it. Words don’t hurt, unless you let them. Then that’s on you.
No one would be upset if RCR just temp-ignored someone and flagged their actions to be overseen by a GM. Some of the people here are just upset that the targets can get silenced through some unknown set of parameters.
RCR is, on the whole, much more effective than just ignore. It’s a temp-ignore, with an infinite amount of usage, versus the 50 ignore spaces. Believe me, if you’ve never seen the Warrior Protest or the Million Gnome March, you’ll never understand why 50 ignore slots is not enough.
What are Classic players afraid of? Retail tourists coming to troll. RCR would make that a non-issue, as much as it would make a hundred gnomes a non-issue.
Because that would be assault. But you can ask them to leave if they aren’t legally supposed to be there. And most certainly you can kick them out if it’s a private venue.
But you just want freedom without the consequences of your actions.
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Oh I fully support temp ignoring. Would be a great feature even from the perspective of a purist. Doesn’t effect gameplay in the least and reduces spam. There have been addons that work the same way, and I’m sure there will be again.
My issue is muting them for others because you don’t like their words.
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No I want the ability to have a conversation 5 random guys out of 1500 find offensive.
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I’m proud that a majority of the forum can see through RCR and is in favor of individual responsibility in using /ignore. I think RCR is a garbage “this person hurt my feefee’s” function for people that are too fragile to exist in a social environment. If you think someone is actually harassing you, exploiting, or cheating, you open a ticket. End of story.
Also, inb4 404 because they report barrage the thread for getting their asses blown out.
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I would be.
Just create a lot more spaces for ignore.
Nope. I’m afraid of missing out on the amusing things people said back in the day because they’re too scared to say anything anymore because the most easily offended have a quick and easy to use “punish him!” button.
Blizzard has had essentially the same standards for hate speech. Silencing someone temporarily just cuts out the middle-man. I’m sorry you want to say the ‘bad words’, but maybe you should put thought into what you’re saying in public chat and adhere to the already established guidelines Blizzard has set.
I am on a high pop realm, I can assure you people still say these things. You need a lot of people to get a silence, it doesn’t always happen. And when it does it varies. Having this in place doesn’t stop people from saying it, it just mitigates the effect to a degree.
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You are squelched bud. We can’t see that post sorry. Try again in 24 hours.
Is this the go-to strawman? I haven’t seen one post here that’s in favor of letting people spam the N-word in trade chat, yet you seem to think that’s the case. Everyone here is just worried about the abuse that has and WILL come in a tight-knit realm community.