How is this a strawman? I’m quoting someone complaining they can’t say certain things.
The feature also has never been proven to be heavily abused, so you needn’t worry about that.
Sorry still squelched. Try again in 23 hours 57 minutes.
Strawman: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent’s real argument.
You assume we just want to spam slurs in trade channels. You’re wrong, and misrepresenting the argument.
you added the word “bad” inside your quote, which he didnt say. Call it nitpicking if you like, but what you think is a bad word probably differs from other people. There’s certainly not a list of these words in the EULA.
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It’s actually pretty comical to see all these posts railing against RCR when the very first post is a link to Blue saying it’s staying in everyone!
If you guys feel so strongly about it, why don’t you go add your words of wisdom in the Blue post.
Because it’s playing out exactly like BfA, where the community says “this train is going off a cliff” and Blizzard says “How could you say that, we’re not even at the cliff yet.”
We’re just old men yelling at clouds.
InfiniteIgnore is an addon that allows you to remove as many people as you want from your chat. However, it’s an addon, and not baked into the game. Nor does it report spammers and CGFs, or call attention to them when they’re being an actual issue.
![:man_shrugging:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/man_shrugging.png?v=6" ":man_shrugging:")
I don’t have and never have had this issue, and RCR’s been around for quite a long time. I’ve yet to encounter anyone who has ever tried to weaponize the RCR the way people in this thread say it happens.
Instead of stories of people being silenced for being who they are or making jokes or whatnot, I’ve encountered several trolls who have found themselves silenced after trying very hard to be disruptive.
It does make me wonder if there’s just a tinge of excessive worry, bordering on paranoia. “They’re out to get me!”
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I know. Bake it into the game.
I’m actually for free speech universally on the internet. There ARE actually people out to get others. There’s all sorts of organisations that are pushing big tech and gaming into more and more censorship. I push back against it at all costs.
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Preach brother. ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
Exactly my thoughts on it.
We all know what he means. Regardless, they actually do! I refer you to Section 1, subsection 6.
Your use of the Platform to interact with Blizzard and other players is governed by Blizzard’s Code of Conduct (the “Code of Conduct”) and applicable in-game policies (the “In-game Policies”). The Code of Conduct and In-Game Policies are not meant to be exhaustive. The Code of Conduct and In-Game Policies are incorporated into this Agreement by this reference, and are available on Blizzard’s Customer Support database.
And Blizzards code of conduct can be found here. https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/42673 (There doesn’t seem to be game specific ones anymore?)
And that says.
Communication
When participating in communication of any kind (chat, voice communication, group finder), you are responsible for how you express yourself. You may not use language that could be offensive or vulgar to others.
Hate speech and discriminatory language is inappropriate, as is any obscene or disruptive language. Threatening or harassing another player is always unacceptable, regardless of language used. Violating any of these expectations will result in account restrictions. More serious and repeated violations will result in greater restrictions.
Which at the bottom it says.
If you’re unsure if your actions violate this code of conduct, reconsider them. We reserve the right to restrict offending accounts as much as necessary to keep Blizzard games a fun experience for all players.
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Sorry still squelched. Try again in 23 hours 45 minutes.
You want RCR. Good for you. You’ve been RCR’d. We can’t see what you type obviously.
Man this sure does feel community building.
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That’s my whole point. There is no clear definition and they can decide on a whim. This just makes people scared to talk, which has an impact on player enjoyment.
And seriously, restrictions on obscene language in a game with a mature language filter is idiotic to the extreme.
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And that’s great. “I don’t agree with what you’re saying but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.” If only more people had that ideal, and had any kind of tolerance for differing opinions or statements.
The problem becomes when people think their rights take precedence over the rights of other people. “My opinion means more than yours.” For WoW it’s the old argument “It’s my 15 dollars, I’ll play how I want!”
You might have the right to say anything you like, but there is nothing that requires me to listen. And vice versa.
The issue is when people think that they have a right to speak over others, to disrupt or suppress people’s expressions because of their own right to “express themselves.” This is the pertinent argument.
There ARE people who want to get others, or squash the rights of others to assemble peacefully. In Vanilla, they arrived, dozens at a time, and just yelled over and over and over, in their fake protests to get their server back online. In Retail, it’s the parade of trolls who think they’re unique in trying to troll and disrupt. In Classic, it’s “retail trolls and tourists who will ruin my server!” They aren’t participating in events, they’re just there to make people mad.
I would have loved RCR in Vanilla. There would not have been anything to miss out on if you ignored a hundred level 1 gnomes, all yelling the same exact statement ad nauseum, in the days when WoW had no limit of how often you could post.
Now, you have RCR.
Hence, why I say that people worried about retail trolls in Classic have nothing to be afraid of.
Are you saying that the only “real life” is the government vs you? Impressive. You must be the POTUS. The only US citizen without a private life.
I know you feel like this statement is important… but it isn’t. If you were a paying customer in my hotel and started spouting Jewish racial slurs… I’d kick you out and be well within my rights as well. Why? Because I choose not to support your point of view. No freedom of speech requirements.
Paying to play again, does not absolve you of Blizzard deciding to kick you out without cause.
Then why does free speech matter? Please explain it to Abomination who says that the “real world” and the “Online world” don’t overlap. Did you miss the part where you were responding to a response in context? I swear you people don’t read any other response except what triggers your snowflake response, then decide that everything said to someone else is clearly aimed at you so you can say “I didn’t say that”. I didn’t shift the goal posts. The goal posts were always there, you just weren’t playing the game.
Actually, there’s two options. Vote to silence, or don’t vote to silence. Aren’t you in America where you have the option to not vote? It’s simply cutting out the middle man. It’s still voting, even if your mind cant’ wrap itself around the concept.
Oh, wait, we’re changing the goal posts to “Principled” now? There’s a lot of reasons for RCR to be implemented over simple ignore, you just don’t like them because they don’t align with your principles. Other people’s principles don’t matter to you, because you live in your ivory offence tower, but out in the “real world”, you have to actually take other people into consideration.
Blizzard implemented RCR so that we the players, can point them at the people who need to be reviewed, instead of having 1 GM handle 1 ticket one by one. There’s now a threshold of complaints, and when its hit they look.
Nope. And here you seem to be offended by being told to handle your own emotions and not act like a child running to their mother.
Sad existence.
Be an adult. Look at your like ratio to mine. You’re a minority. If you need Blizzard to police chat with automated systems to make you feel safer you truly need to quit gaming online.
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It’s comical you think Blizzard only reads posts where a CM posts.
If you actually think they’re not paying attention then you have utterly failed to pay attention to the development and changes in Classic beta. Thanks for being full of yourself like you are in every post.
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the fact is, right click report is not the problem. its the auto squelch that comes with it that is the real issue.
rcr is how they do cs now. to ask them to simply remove it entirely and totally change how they do cs is just foolish.
the only real thing we can ask for is to remove the auto squelch punishment and yes it is a punishment from the system.
allowing mob rule is stupid at best.
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Since you seem to know about it in far more detail, can you give actual specifics on the squelch?
Its it simply not talking in public channels? Is it actually proven to be a DC? Do you get removed from battlegrounds like you do with AFK reporting?
I can’t say I’ve ever actually reported someone or been affected by RCR in the minor amount of play time I’ve had in Retail since it was put in.
Here’s when it actually happened. Don’t remember if Blizzard even commented on it.
the squelch is triggered with a certain number or frequency or both of reports. could be 5 + i dont know the actual specifics to that part.
there was a post a long time ago which showed what you could and couldnt do but the post is outdated.
it does indeed dc you and being dced in bgs you would get removed from the group.
ive talked with people that have gotten auto squelch on discord cause they werent able to talk with me in game and they have intimated as much.
i dont really talk with them anymore cause i switched factions and diddnt keep in touch.