Right Click Report is a Bad Idea

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citation needed.

no such thing as an auto ban.

So? that means nothing, most people do not advertise their interactions.

by themselves? nothing since banning does not occur until later in the penalty volcano. Or earlier if severe enough.

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More like people don’t advertise positive outcomes, especially when they are dead set on casting shade and vitriol on/about Blizzard.

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then there are the ones who may not have ever noticed they got actioned in the first place,lol.

Any system they make people will try and find a way to exploit it, that’s just how it goes sadly.

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This exact thing happened to me in a random bg. I quit the game then and there. I’m only back for classic.

It almost feels like a lynch mob.

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They have overturned even permanent bans and long term suspensions. The easiest to look up is probably notable streamers or guild members who were banned for some exploit and then had it reversed or reduced.

Just recently, https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/update-to-recent-suspensions/161149 they mass suspended numerous accounts for an exploit that allowed people to bypass some of the clients security features. They discovered that some people were only doing it to modify character models in the client. Despite the fact that many of the people suspended were guilty of a lot more than that, they reversed the entire batch of suspensions and issued warnings instead.

It’s also a contradiction in your logic to simultaneously believe that they’d never overturn any action, while also stating that they are profit motivated. If you’re primarily profit motivated you wouldn’t want a bad reputation forming surrounding unjust account actions. That would interfere with your profits. If profit were their only motivation they wouldn’t mass ban cheaters at all. The fact that they’ve come so far in dealing with botters/hackers compared to even just a few years ago demonstrates a commitment to the integrity of their game. You could try to argue that they mass ban in hopes of getting all those people to re-purchase the game, but it’s not realistic to expect innocent people to just accept unfair treatment and keep re-buying your game and starting over.

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You are 100% wrong.

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no he is 100% correct in what he is saying, RcR by itself is just fine, the part that is abusable is the squelch.

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Yeah I aready mentioned grubby.

I meant I havent seen randoms come on and say the review process is fair because they had a silence or ban overturned. I just have seen posts on HOTS like mine where they upheld a ban with the only example being to uphold it something stupid like “wtf” being cited as a valid reason.

*edit my point being using high profile people as examples of overtuned just shows they are doing it when they are caught red handed. a random like me getting a 3 day ban for saying “wtf” is upheld by citing the ambiguous ToS.

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you posted the memes not me.

It is more in character for a child to post memes than adults. thats all I am saying.

Maybe you are older than 15 I dont know. I just know you have posted troll like responses with a meme gif and that just makes me think of a kid.

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You are incorrect If you think meme’s, gifs or trollish behavior are exclusive to children.

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being actioned for that is not ambiguous though, masked profanity is very clearly defined. and unless their system is completely different, you were banned based on your previous actions in your account, as a ban is not the first thing that happens to you(unless it is something extreme).

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I don’t think we are getting the full story, which is usually the case. Some people like to omit information so they can push their agenda.

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so you think people should get bans for saying “wtf”?

As for HotS the third silence is a temp ban. 8 months prior to that when they first started tweaking the algorithm to pop people with very few reports I had 2 silences because I didnt know they were on some weird crusade.

Those were for getting into arguments from people intentionally afking in ranked play and admitting it and using unmasked curse words when arguing with them. Once I learned how sensitive the algorithm was I toned down engaging with the trolls because they were abusing it intentionally.

But yet 8mo later because there is no reset in the system, I had 4 people report me because they do not like that I sat mid while one of them respawned and thought I should of died with them in a 4v5 useless fight and they all started cursing and saying they were reporting me for afk.

I went out of my way to not say anything and when the system autobanned me based soley on their report, the CS upheld it based on the one time I said “wtf”.

“wtf” is such a commonly used phrase that even my grandma would use it if she was alive. that shows me they did not review the incident and used had the system spit out something they could quickly use to uphold the ban and move on. thats how it works.

people have had bans upheld for saying “please stop being mid” because they said its telling someone how to play and abusive.

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did you read what I wrote?

being actioned for that is not ambiguous though, masked profanity is very clearly defined. and unless their system is completely different, you were banned based on your previous actions in your account, as a ban is not the first thing that happens to you(unless it is something extreme).

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Just answer it. Do you think the ban system is functioning if they uphold a ban based on using “wtf”?

I know the ToS. Ive read it. It also says language that someone may consider abusive is bannable, which can be anything.

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I’ll just swear in my own langauage. Bet they don’t cover those :joy:

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makes no difference, it is still masked profanity.

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The added bonus is the confused faces of those people you are swearing at or about. :rofl:

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Did you read what I wrote? that is your answer,lol.

being actioned for that is not ambiguous though, masked profanity is very clearly defined. and unless their system is completely different, you were banned based on your previous actions in your account , as a ban is not the first thing that happens to you(unless it is something extreme).

you were not banned just for saying that as I clearly explain.

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Hehe, yea, unless I run into some from my country. Not so afraid of that though. We are not overly sensitive where I come from.