Reviving WoW PvP: Bring Back Gladiator and Rank 1 Titles for 2v2 and 5v5

WoW Classic Mists of Pandaria Classic Discussion
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Blizzard should consider bringing back the Gladiator and Rank 1 titles to the 2v2 and 5v5 arena brackets in World of Warcraft. Here’s why:

  1. More Competitive Options

Right now, the Gladiator and Rank 1 titles are only for 3v3, which limits the competitive scene. By adding these titles to 2v2 and 5v5, Blizzard would give players more ways to compete. Each format requires different skills, and adding titles would encourage more players to join the competitive PvP scene.

  1. Keeping Players Interested

Titles like Gladiator are a big motivator. Many players leave the game when they feel they can’t reach the top in 3v3. By offering titles in 2v2 and 5v5, more players could earn these rewards, which would help keep them playing longer.

  1. More Variety in Gameplay

3v3 can sometimes feel like it’s dominated by certain strategies. If titles were available in 2v2 and 5v5, we’d see more diverse team compositions and creative strategies. These formats require different types of coordination, keeping the PvP scene fresh and exciting.

  1. Appealing to Different Playstyles

3v3 focuses on large-team strategies, while 2v2 and 5v5 offer challenges that suit different playstyles. 2v2 requires tight teamwork between two players, while 5v5 is all about coordinating with a larger group. Adding Gladiator and Rank 1 titles to these formats would give more players a chance to excel in the way they prefer.

5. Reviving the PvP Community

Without these titles in 2v2 and 5v5, those formats have become less popular. Bringing them back would attract more players to these brackets, helping to create a more active and competitive PvP community.

Conclusion

Reinstating Gladiator and Rank 1 titles for 2v2 and 5v5 would make WoW PvP more exciting and inclusive. It would give players more ways to earn prestigious rewards, keep them playing longer, and refresh the competitive scene. This change would benefit both Blizzard and players alike.

Thank you very much for reading and really hope some Blizzard reps could consider making this a reality, would love to see a blue post response here :smiley:

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2v2 and 5v5 are not competitive. So no they should not have titles.

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Question; how are they not competitive?

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If you are asking why 2v2 and 5v5 are not competitive then it’s very clear you have low EXP.
Not trying to be rude but you can watch anyone stream and see why brackets like 2v2 shouldn’t give titles, most games in Cata that are healer dps vs healer dps end in draws even if both healers are 2% mana the games literally won’t end majority of the time.
5s is just a cluster and in Cata would be filled with rot comps left and right and 5s already had a huge issue in Wotlk with wintraders.
Giving titles to these bracket does not save arena, it’s the xpac and not the rewards that is the issue.

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I don’t pvp, I was just curious. Thanks for the info though!

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As much as I enjoy 2’s and 5’s, Cataclysm 2’s is the worst expansion to exist for that bracket.And 5’s is a cluster as Ezzary has mentioned, 3’s feels fine to an extent, but Cata arenas can feel dull at times in general.

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Harsh reality is 2s and 5s shouldn’t give titles since the game isn’t balanced around those brackets and are super silly for certain comps.

Even more of a harsh reality is 3s is also piss poor with balancing in cata and as we get further and further into cata the more pve added to 3s makes the bracket even worse. People don’t wanna play an unbalanced, unchanged bracket and pvp just dies out. Gonna be not many titles this season cus a big portion of the already small population has quit.

Last season was already the ‘rarest’ title season we’ve had in all of classic and historically it should’ve been a bit more spots since its the first season of an expansion and USUALLY those seasons are the most active in an expansion.

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Cata pvp just isn’t good, titles have nothing to do with the state of pvp. Hardly anyone cares about 3s either ques are dead

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Yea Cata is basically Jungle, RMP and RLS variants and thats it.

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Rshams are unbelievably OP in 2s and 3s. Its not even close.

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Game is dead man.

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Competitive is subjective. Play any game around 2.2k rating in 2v2 and tell me they’re not competing lol.

Why do you care so much about prime pristine balance in a nostalgia classic version of a game… when participation is so low anyways because of barriers of entry and also no incentive for other brackets?

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Its not…and 99% of the community and even Blizzard agrees and has agreed for a long time. 2v2 is not competitive and never was. 2v2 is for gaining conquest points and practicing. Go play 3v3 or stop complaining.

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cata 2s is the single best way to give yourself early stages of cancer

5s has been a dead wintrading bracket since tbc

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Go get 3k in 2s then if there’s no competition!

And this attitude right here is why your game has zero participation. Enjoy!

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The secret to 2’s climbing is playing the strongest meta comp, and then when you get to real ratings (actual R1) you queue dodge/snipe. 3’s is just generally more balanced, fewer “decided at queue pop” match-ups.

disc/feral in wrath is one of the comps that I hated fighting as war/pal, and it was a winnable matchup in wrath. it is not winnable in cata, and it’s very popular, so why would i queue 2’s for anything other than conquest?

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Yeah double healer boomkin is so competitive. Rshams are so competitive. 3s is a mess too. Just let people go for it in a nostalgia game. Stop living in 2010

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This was the mistake of leaving the titles in for wrath when they shouldn’t have been. Now a bunch of people who have never been glad are suddenly up in arms about the titles.

Did you consider arena is dead because the pvp balance isn’t great AND won’t be getting changed and people don’t want to play in that environment? Did you consider it’s going to get worse to play now that casters are getting legendary staves, and then rogues will have legendary daggers next phase as well?

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So you’re saying pvp isn’t competitive? Why not just take titles away from everything then? Let nobody go for anything fun in a solved nostalgia game!

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Your argument is dumb. It’s less competitive in a bracket where double dps can delete players in the first go with impunity CONSISTENTLY. It’s almost like having an additional player for peel makes a huge difference to balance or something.

Make a real argument please. If you were glad level you’d play 3’s and get glad, or go to retail and actually be multi-glad.