No, actually the opposite, they are too easy to use and opportunity cost needs to be added to them.
They need resource costs that make you choose between damage and control for abilities like this.
No, it just makes kick bots less effective and players more effective.
Mists is a great game, but by no means perfect, it has a lot of faults but I would play it now if it were present to play and hosted by Blizzard.
iâm kinda at loss for words at how bad this sounds.
No, actually the opposite, they are too easy to use and opportunity cost needs to be added to them.
The only thing this achieves is that it slows down the game.
They need resource costs that make you choose between damage and control for abilities like this.
Ok, now iâm certain you are just complaining cause you canât learn enough binds so you want to gimp everyone down to your level. People donât just wildly throw out CC they throw it out when it matters, this change doesnât remove arena 1, 2, 3âs
No, it just makes kick bots less effective and players more effective.
There arenât that many people running around with them and if they are they should get banned. Do you actually think that everyone is running around with kickbots?
Mists is a great game, but by no means perfect, it has a lot of faults but I would play it now if it were present to play and hosted by Blizzard.
Yeah, i donât want to play your version of wow, no offence, sounds pretty crap.
My favourite part is how he praises MoP as a good expansion when that was the one that dropped Revive Pet from 6 seconds to 2 seconds in the first place.
Mend Pet is a HoT where the cooldown is equal to the duration. There is literally no benefit to removing the cooldown whatsoever, it would just cause players to eat extra GCDs and munch ticks by refreshing a bit too early to avoid it falling off.
Do you even play a Hunter?
Yeah thats what i was trying to get at for a lot of it. was just waiting for it to come out of the horses mouth.
i could be wrong but when it had an instant cast time and no focus cost in wrath, spamming it did induce another instant of healing faster than the next tick would come out, no?
No.
It was channeled in Vanilla and TBC. It became a HoT in Wrath, and you could refresh it whenever you wanted, wasting mana and GCDs in the process.
They added the cooldown in a later expansion (I donât remember which) as a QoL thing to make it easier to track when Mend Pet is up, because tracking a buff on your pet is a pain with the default UI (see also Frenzy), but tracking a cooldown on one of your abilities is easy.
Itâs already in the game?
The problem here is that many classes/specs cleaves passively for more damage than what Mend Pet is capable of healing. Meaning even if the enemy isnât actually focusing on your pet, it still dies.
Youâre basically saying âThe 6sec cast time on res is perfectly fine if they also doâŠto other classesâ.
This is a moot point from you as, this is not how the game works and weâve seen no indication towards them changing it to be more like this.
In the current state, a 6sec cast time on res is beyond terrible. And since they havenât done anything else to account for such a change, itâs nothing but that, a terrible change. Unnecessary/unwarranted.
Yeah Iâm going to be real with you, this sounds like something a 1400 rated private server player would say LOL
Already been posted, long pet rez is fine if thereâs tools and actual ability to play around not having your pet out in the open, pets are currently designed in a way that you cannot be effective without them actually attacking your kill target constantly which means having them instantly die and having a 6 second rez is a massive design flaw
I could deal with WoTLK style pet rezzing with the entire old pet toolkit and wouldnt complain, but when you have a version of pets that revolve around the fact that you need their uptime on a target the entire game with every defensive ability for pets pruned then itâs not workable
Considering itâs purgeable this is the only non horrible suggestion
Retail PvP is so un fun I stopped playing it with any care in legion and only goof on it now because itâs really bad. You have gotta admit itâs terrible, because we both know itâs been hundreds of times better to play in the not so distant past.
I want the whole game un pruned, but blizzard has only gone slightly back, they need to go further.
Take your emotions out of it for a minute, go back and try to see what I was trying to say before because I think you misread me.
Right,and I know that and agree with you. I should have been a lot more clear in my original point, I should have stated very clearly that the class designs really need to be rolled back so that the classes are strong again rather than propped up on copy and pasted boring borrowed everyone has the same boring crap RNG nightmare of abilities.
And even saying that may not be enough to communicate how broken the game is.
Are you experiencing your pet being killed in PvP as a result of Mend Pet being Purged? I.E. your pet took damage that it would have survived had Mend Pet been ticking, but it was purged and on CD? My understanding is that pets die too easily to any concerted effort to kill them, even with Mend Pet and defensives active.
Seems to me like removing the CD doesnât actually help solve the problem of pets being too squishy to have a 6 sec rez.
You still donât know the basic tools that Hunter has to keep their pet alive, how to use them, and how woefully inadequate they are if anyone actually wants to kill your pet.
Until you have a basic understanding of what this entails you have zero credibility on this issue.
You missed the point, and I should have gone into far better detail about fixing the class, right now itâs as far as I am concerned very broken. Revive pet being a longer cast isnât the problem, the problem is the class designs are garbage and hunter isnât well designed.
It bad because of corruption. That nothing to do with Hunter. Hunter actually need good corruption to even be good.
And classic not any better. Plus⊠That your classic main. Playing a rouge. You hide all day and gank lowbies.
Having more buttons donât make the game better. That why they prune in first place but they kelp doing it to what we have now. Them unpruning is actually good. Even if some abilities are pointless it nice to mess around and HAVE fun
You said 6 is good and it not⊠In Pvp OR Pve.
How is needing corruption good design? Do you like RNG that much? Maybe thatâs how it is now, just play the slot machines.
Classic PvP is fun, but itâs not a skill based thing because it lacks a good rating system. Itâs nothing more than just some good laughs and thatâs all it is.
True having more tools does not always make the game better, but blizzard took it too far with the pruning, and itâs my opinion that a lot of the former utility and counter play should return.
I forgot about that completely boneheaded change. Pets better be immune to mindless AoE in PvP then and a LOT more durable. I already have to rezz it all the time againsât cleaves and they never even target it.
I never said it was. And a littlr rng not a bad thing. To much it bad.
I agree with this.
I mean mend pet would at least help a good amount, but yes Iâve had teams that realize you can just purge mend pet and then your only way to keep your pet alive is completely useless
It just helps when theyâre only tickling your pet, you could be a priest with just a swp and purge the pets mend off and itâs going to die
Yeah Iâd just make Mend Pet immune to Purge in that case.
Spamming Mend Pet would hurt your DPS as much as (or more than) letting the pet die in the first place.
But it is. Precisely because of the reasons stated by yourself and others.
Sure, the current design isnât exactly good either. But increasing the cast time on pet rez accomplishes nothing but making it even worse.
Saying that it would be fine if not for the garbage design of other class toolkits along with our own does not excuse the fact that the increased rez time change is nothing but a terrible one.