Revive Pet Cannot be a 4 second cast in PvP

I can also see a strategy where this will make it very hard on the healer. Positioning gets a lot much more difficult. We will need to keep our pet and ourselves in LOS for the healer, expose the healer, or risk losing our pet.

If the other team has a stun and a CD, we can’t risk sending our pet behind a column for even a moment. They will get stunlocked in a second. We can trinket and get away. The only pets that have a trinket, to my knowledge, are cunning pets, and they aren’t ideal for BM Hunters in Arena.

Warlock changes and fel domination were purportedly reverted on beta, mend pet returning to its current cast time could be coming!!!

Actually cunning pets are still pmuch BiS even if you were playing BM just to have masters call but they pruned bullheaded in BfA which also worked as a 20% shield wall

But ya I mean even through heals it’s pretty easy to kill pets, they just don’t really have any good defensive mechanics

Locks still have fel dom and don’t need their pets on the kill target at all times in arena which is kind of funny tho

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Can you sic your pet on the healer and change your KC to

#showtooltip
/use [@pettarget,harm][]Kill Command

I wasn’t aware of this. Shows you how much I do arena. Want to do more, but I’m spending so much time maintaining my Hunter, one alt, and my wife I don’t have enough time - even with WFH COVID19.

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The reason you need your pet on the kill target is because you need to keep the mortal wounds debuff applied, not just getting KC’s off CD

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Humor me, assume this is 3s and you have somebody else with MW so you are running a purge pet.

My question is whether this works mechanically or not, not whether it’s effective.

Any comp where you’re not providing MW is effectively really bad as a hunter, your best comps and class synergies are with those who don’t have mortal wounds

Also, the thing with having your pet in those positions as a warlock is that let’s say you use an imp which is really squishy, you can have it constantly behind a pillar and your healer just positions himself in the open slightly, so that if he’s hit by CC he can get imp dispelled, but the imp can’t get attacked

Doing this with a hunter pet would mostly be pointless because it wouldn’t necessarily be parked where you want it to be, and it would still have to be out in the open, not really behind a pillar safely. It’s a very different scenario than what you can do as a warlock pmuch, who also can have their entire team position in a way that protects them when their pet is being attacked and set up a pre-emptive resummon too based on their positioning.

You wouldn’t need to use a macro either to do what you’re describing, it’s just that it wouldn’t be effective anyways. Also pet purge would require melee range to begin with, and is still most useful when being used off CD, and having your pet constantly move from the pillar to a kill target over and over would just consist of a lot of waddling that would make it really easy to kill anyways because it’s basically dashing in, then slowly walking back out. Any slow applied would just make it a free kill anyways so you accomplish pmuch nothing

Dude I’m asking about whether KC will fire if your pet is on a different target without it charging across the room.

I’m not asking about PvP viability, I’m asking about the detailed mechanics of the spell because I’m not terribly familiar with MSV.

Well if you have it on one target, your KC will still dash your pet across the room to the newer target

BM/SV KC are basically the same ability, pet still charges to the target you choose no matter what

Ok you misunderstand.

I’m saying you are attacking RougeyMcRogueface. Your pet is attacking Healbot. You use the KC macro I posted above.

Does Fluffy use KC on Healbot? Or does Fluffy charge to RogueyMcRogueface?

It would just attack your pets target (the healer)

You’d now only run into issues of not being able to use it if the healer drags pet behind los

You need LoS of the pet to KC? or the pet’s target? Or the pet needs LoS of its own target (which I guess is a given).

LoS of the pets target

4 second rez time is still too long. If they really want this crap to go live they need to add Heart of the Phoenix to hunter spellbooks and take Mend Pet off the global cooldown.

Edit: Actually, they should make these changes regardless of what they do. Come on, man!

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And the pet does significant damage in addition to the debuff and Focus generation, so you really need it to be attacking something at least, all the time.

This is why I play MM. I’m fine having a pet be a part of my damage (though I prefer Lone Wolf for anything remotely competitive), but I don’t want to be even a little dependent on it to be functional.

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MM is fine w/o a pet in random and some RBG environments, but when it comes to Arena you’ll be sad and unwise to not have one due to the utility.

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I’ll jus thave to keep Fluffy on passive and never ever let them in danger.
Notmyfluffyfluffakins…

Agree. 4 sec cast time will make both Hunter and Warlock unplayable. Pet are too easy to die and too important for these 2 classes.

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Warlocks get an instant rez on a 3 minute cooldown.