abandon one’s country or cause in favor of an opposing one.
Baine wanted the Horde to be honorable. He didn’t help Jaina for the Alliance. This reminded Jaina that some in the Horde are still honorable, and now she wants to help Baine in his goal.
Whether you consider what Saurfang did to be a defection or not, he wasn’t defecting to the Alliance. He was giving up. He never agreed to serve Anduin. When he was freed, his focus was entirely on getting “his Horde” back.
I don’t care about birthright. She wants to help her people, and as boring of a story choice as it would be, she would be a much better leader than Sylvanas was. That’s enough for me.
How would you have her reappear lol?
Lets use a real world example.
The Iranian Shah lost his kingdom back in the 1970s. His son, after 50 years is the rightful ruler of Iran.
Now do you imagine this would be king returning to Iran would be met with anything less than imprisonment or at the very least deportation?
That goes against everything Baine has said. If you want to headcanon that then whatever, but that’s clearly not what Blizzard was thinking when writing about Baine.
She never formally abdicated. Her kingdom fell apart and all its citizens scattered to all corners of the world.
If she went back to the ruins of Lordaeron she would have probably died… just like she did in BTS.
And you don’t care about real life because it exposes how nonsensical your argument is as it defies logic.
the light conflicts with shadow undead, just like fel fire and elemental fire both burn a tree, a lightforged undead “revives” a body just in a different manor. And lore “breaks” every patch from magical star destroyers to time travel, to retconing demons yet again.
Well that’s not what most undead consider in the story in Before the storm. So yea. I mean you can think that. But saying that it makes no sense I think is a stretch. She finished her training and did her “hero” story now she’s ready finally to meet with Sylvanas. It’s not like Sylvanas is an easy foe that a child or even adult with no training or backers can hope to vanquish. Sylvanas has always been a tyrant. And Calia is finally ready to free her people. And by being invested by the light she will. She basicly had to had her character builded up and probably will happen more before anything resolve.
follow me or die is not a choice, and if Sylvanas never came back the scourge would have slowly been wiped out like we’re seeing in the plague lands and they would have just rebuild. like SW after the 2nd war.
As for those saying "Well were was she? she should have reappeared before now? it’s mentioned in the priest hall that she’s been following Foal training as a priest. (who’s been working against the twilights hammer so I’d imagine that’s where she’s been)
(you know the twilights hammer that brought the orcs into azeroth in the first place? you know the ones who eventually lead to the scourge which destroyed lordaeron? you know the place we’re talking about)
My problem is the only reason this happened is to force her into a place where as alive, she would not belong. Three of the most powerful priests cannot ressurect a non-decomposed body into a fully living one, while anduin can bring others back to life in other stories by himself? It’s somehow undead? The only way I’d accept this is if examples of it were previously in the story, as no other light-powered entity has ever made a corpse undead.
It’s like saying follow the law or go to jail, it’s perfectly fair. And with Sylvanas’ resources, only then are you alive. So, you were alive, and using your alive resources, you died. Through Sylvanas’ power, you are now alive. Serve her or go back to your consequence.
not really a fair comparison, more along the lines of walking into a town were half the population has been killed off by someone else and telling the others to do your bidding or you’ll kill them too and then pulling out a gun to prove it.
Also what resources? we see the Val’kry raising multiple undead with little to no effect on themselves.
there aren’t resources wasted on common undead, it’s just her being a tyrant and having been one since Cata.
Seriously though, you guys aren’t unsubscribing. The game has to change in order to stay relevant. If the story line was that important, you guys would have left the moment she burned down the tree.
Pyromancer stop reading my posts.