Retail is dead

Think people just got burnt out playing against boomy/dh for the fourteenth month in a row. Fingers crossed today’s tuning injects some life.

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Eh, could be. The nerfs will be nice.

I doubt thats causing the cata magnet. I think once tourney is over hype will deflate. If not then, prob after season 9 when people realize playing cleaves is boring.

I think it depends what you like. It’s definitely a downgrade from the more classic, classics. Like it’s in this awkward middle ground where it’s not classic, but it’s not retail. So retail enjoyers don’t like it because it’s too old, & classic enjoyers don’t like it because it’s too modern.

I’m happily neutral & can enjoy watching everything pre-legion, sans wod tbh. Playing I’ll lose all my fun in mop.

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exactly. the game is figured out already. its not the old experience at all. theres a uber defined meta. certain classes are different in general. etc.

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Bro, I get 250 conquest per win in 2s, and 75 for losing. This is great.

No wonder retail is dead. I would come back and do catchup but I’m sure as hell not grinding out 50 per win and nothing for losing.

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Conquest gain is definitely lame at the moment in retail, but imo faster conquest gains don’t make up for having to raid for several pieces of your gear (e.g., so I’ve heard, maybe not the case in first season).

I’m happy for those enjoying cata arena. We don’t all have the same tastes and that’s okay :slight_smile:

It just isn’t for me …, unless … cata solo shuffle!!! :sunglasses:

I left retail to play cata because of two reasons:

  • No rewards interest me for this season

  • No one on my btag is playing it

Healing is much more fun in cata than solo shuffle on retail. The game is slower and more CC is required to earn kills(the way it should be). No damp, but people still go oom from healing. Less overall clutter in the game with infinite ways to survive. The game is more simple.

Conquest gains are amazing in cata, no gear grinding, 16 wins and you are capped for the week. You also get conquest for losing which saves me having to do 50 wintergrasps to gear up.

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I noticed you said you preferred Cata to Solo Shuffle but no mention of Retail 3s? Is it because 3’s in retail are more complicated and not “simple”? This is not a flame, genuine question.

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For example healing on priest there is no lifeswap, or earth grab totem for shaman as heals so you have to play abit differently. Cata is alot more simplified in that sense, ie less abilities over all to think about. 3s in retail is more like you have to press everything and trade instantly or you die, cata is more relaxed in that sense for 3s. the pacing is just different to retail.

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Really

I open cata stream and watch double or triple dps just kill people 20-40 seconds in

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That’s the thing about old WoW, Pure Dps teams or Dps/Tank could compete. Probably about to see a Blood Dk in the Cata AWC

what streamer?

yes. you have more time as casts are slower. it beats being 100-0’d in a hoj like in retail.

cata games are like 30 seconds, retail games are minimum 5mins, nobody is gettign 100-0’d in a hoj only retail

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I’ve been healing and its actually fun. Queues are instant too if you want to try it.

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yes but noone except the glads are playing it, thats why they aren’t dying in a HoJ.

Why wouldn’t you? Cata is by far a better expansion than DF and it’s PvP was a great time to be alive.

Bingo. All formats too. Arena, RBGs, BGs and WPvP. Still got Wintergrasp and Tol Borad every 3-4 hours. PvP is bumping.

You get 750 Conquest for an RBG win. Got my weapon tonight :slight_smile:

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This may shock you, but if no one cared about PVP, there wouldnt be a plethora of people here talking about it and why its either non-existent or bad.

I hate when people say things like “classic is taking people away from retail.” It’s not a good talking point because you can say that about anything really. Arena gets boring to a lot of people and someone like myself is rare. There are so few of people who can spam arena and it never gets dull. That’s just a fact and it doesn’t matter how good the meta is or anything else if people don’t feel like playing retail arena.