Are DHs still exploiting blur giving 80% dodge instead of the intended 50%? 
No itās been fixed, but it is a 70% dodge when up because agility classes all seem to have a baseline 20% so itās still pretty powerful vs physical attacks.
I swear that no one would notice this in 9/10 matchups. Ret already has full uptime into sp/shaman and wont have significantly different uptime vs mages/hunters even if it is unpurgeable.
I think this is a lot more reasonable, but maybe shift damage away from BoJ then?
Idk, ive seen four different cupid teams within the last 24 hours on NA and EU with a FW, rsham, disc priest, and rdruid and they all beat a dh/sp, ww/enh, rogue/mage, and feral/mage.
These were all multiglad/r1 players too.
Idk how much of it is carried by bm, but rets were topping scoreboard damage and it wasnt just vanguards doing vanguards things.
I think Vanguards has always been a Ret outlier, even when Ret was trash in DF S2 or 3? He was still pumping damage like crazy. Itās the same thing when thinking of Aff and Chanimals. Even if Aff was absolutely dog (itās not) Chanimals would still pump like crazy. When it comes to Aff if they are focused hard they donāt really do much damageā¦the difference with Chanimals is that the amount of Precog the dude gets from juking 90% of kicks in matches is insane.
Like what? What you mentioned is pure qol I already told you forb should be gone.
What else did paladins get from the patch? 70k healing on blessings? 70k healing on cleanse?
Ret remains the same after the patch.
30% armor buff please do the math on how much damage reduction against the least used type pf damage that is.
Ret remains the same. Because in the same way talents were added, we lost others mainly thoughtput , the seal of order 10% reduction on builders, aa damage, blessing of dawn is not 30%.
The spec as a whole came out with less raw power and some qol. But still the same ret as before. Yea I can live a go where I would be dead before yay I die next go anyways because ret still has a 10% wall and immunities that get removed in a global.
The ret I play with and any I see in shuffle are going ham. I dunno what to tell you dude. Healing hands makes LoH a 2-3 min CD if used well and itās an auto insta full heal from a dps regardless of damp/MS. The damage is also broken. Top every lobby. Think itās a skill issue my guy. Play Templar.
lol at Shuffle matches going this long 9/10 times.
You play Demo, you just got buffed. Play Aff and see if the Ret still tops damage meters. Frost Mages, BM, Survival, WW, DKs, Sprioests, Ferals, even Boomies now do much more damage than a Ret does.
Oh and Destro and Aff lockā¦possibly Demo now with your buffs.
Sounds like youāve never seen Cupid 3s lol. Ret is doing big dam
I was seeing ret outdamage Spriests and WWs. The damage is crazy. My buddy hit an rdruid for a 3 mil crit.
Ya 100%, but thatās why I said it āwasnāt just vanguards doing vanguards thingsā. All the ret+hunter teams were smashing.
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All I can speak from is my experience my dude. Ret is looking crazy strong in the games Iāve been in. Even all wizard lobbies.
As it should be.
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It is extremely difficult to hit 3 mil HoL. Ret has been low tier all xpac. It would be nice for the devs to finally help out with the damage.
Both specs are underwhelming: Herald provides zero pressure and is purely there to pad meters while templar is usually lowest damage on the meters after a match and can sometimes line up kills if the target is low and you hit a big HoL.
Just buff final verdict and call it a day.
okay, sure.
Iām really not sure this is true anymore, especially with buffs and nerfs to other specs. There have been several cupid teams in NA and EU that are stomping the ladder.
I recognize that part of that is that several MS classes that synergize with ret got buffs as well (bm, arms, and demo), but ret has a TON of sustained damage even though the burst is low.
I totally hear and agree that the kill pressure feels low (at least for herald), but the damage portion does feel really strong.
Iāve also seen quite a few templar players recently that just play ret/war or cupid like rogue/mage and do a go every 30s and spam wog in between and theyāre doing like 200k+ hps which is very significant.
Wow an entire week with the chsnges and ret is in the same place it was.
The ā3M hammer of lightā meme is spreading like a psyop and Im amazed you all fell for it
This is so true. I have never come close to hitting someone in full pvp gear for 3 mil. Largest hit is maybe 1.8 mil. Ret is bottom of the pack for sure. Just got to cross your fingers that ret gets some buffs this time around.
You seem so angry all the time, no rets much better now and you might just need a little practice 