I think rets are fine the problem is there are to many classes op right now, thats why ret need a buff to be able to compete with those classes or in a ideal world they get nerfed.
99% of the ret pop dosent even pick sanc. Sure you wanna do that lol
They do pick it, but never use it.
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With all the utility ret has, you donât need all that dps.
I mean you can call it skill issue but its a fact. If anythinf the change wont do much in uncoordinated modes like rss and blitz.
Dshield still on the gcd removes lots of outplay potential too, leading you to have to bubble earlier than you should because gcd
This is not classic buddy. Ret is a damage dealer it deals damage it needs to do damage to be viable. There is no "mmm ackshually ret has three utikity spells therefor they need lower dps mmm yes "
Based on that many tanky specs and high self sustain would meed subpar damage and we know thats not the case. The game isnt balanced like 2004
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Hey man, Iâm just repeating what every moron who visits this forum says about spriests and its utility and how they donât deserve X.
You might of said it in the past, who knows, but donât @me, @them lol
The balance just hasnât been there this expansion. I have been waiting since August for ret to have some semblance of viability but blizz is adamant on breaking the game further, ie. giving feral MORE buffs. I mean come on dudeâŚ
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Hyperbole
The spec is just kinda weak compared to the God specs but that doesnât mean itâs garbo, it just needs some dmg adjustments and the God specs brought down into the mortal realm.
If anything just nerf the God specs and donât touch ret, at least there wonât be as many id**ts rerolling it if it gets too buffed.
Also, removing the haste talents is probably a bigger hit than anticipated, at least for me now itâs like Iâm playing with oce lag -.-
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You are right. They had all xpac to nerf ferals but instead decide to buff the spec. It is beyond frustrating to see this when these specs need nerfs. Such a slap in the face.
Try being a fury warriorâŚ
Sure we were top at the start but one 3% damage nerf destroyed us. Dropping us to 18th! Were still clawing back under 10th. Ret is still above us. At least you got the devs trying to look out for ya. Fury has been an afterthought since the reveal of hero talents back in Dragonflight.
I literally play only DH and Ret right now and Ret is absolutely awesome after the changes as I predicted, the changes were huge especially to LoH and divine shield, if you disagree youâre either delusional or stupid, probably both though lol. But maybe itâs just a skill issue for you 
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Yeah, which he clearly has 
(a skill issue)
Gotta love playing with god and anime on your side
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Thereâs no way that youâre trying to use the argument of divine shield being on the global as âoutplay potentialâ.
If you have to âbubble earlier than you shouldâ then youâre just not good at playing ret or not coordinated with your healer, what?!
So many defensives are on the gcd and have to be pressed higher on HP. Bubble is safer than all of them.
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Only a ret as bad as Christtel would be sitting here begging for more dcd buffs after one of the biggest survivability changes in WoWs history drops for his spec.
We really need 10.0.7 ret back nao or ret unplayable, huh buddy?
Maybe auto bubble too!
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The thing that makes me feel uneasy about buffing Ret is the fact they basicaly became range caster in plate.
We donât want them to become WotLK Frost DK.
I really like the changes to lay on hands and bubble. Damage tuning will happen eventually.
The changes didnt move the neddle. I already told you only thing worth mentioning and more of a qol change was dshiels with forb.
Ret is still the same before 11.0.5.
Feral bleeds ticking almost as hard as final verdict.
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