RET Paly bottom of the logs in first few days of M+

warcraft logs, parses basically are a ranking system on how good you play your spec compared to other players. but i wouldnt listen to them until later in the season where everyone has simliar ilvl

purple-orange basically means you know how to play your spec almost at the level of mastery, orange pink requires alot of outside sources like external cds, timers, rng trinkets, ect ect

Thanks! Apparently I have a 97 parse on heroic fyrakk. Didn’t know I did that well lol

grats fren :3c

OP is correct.

https ://murlok. io/meta/dps/mm+

Check the actual rankings. They nerfed ret into the absolute floor.

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It’s funny. According to MythicStats data, we’re number two now.

(https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/39#sample=7)

Well, sorry to burst your bubble but paly is at the bottom in the most reliable Mythic + logs

Are you going to bring toxic Noxxic logs into this to try to prove your point ?

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Wait, wait…

I’m reading it right now. We’re 11th out of 26th----for Mythic Score.

But it says for dps, we’re number 3 out of 26 for DPS!

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I don’t know how you can come up with this info reading the logs but Ret paly is totally at the bottom in M+

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When you go to Warcrafts Logs, click Help at top right.

It will take you to Archon webpage The Warcraft Logs Companion with the latest updates. Click War Within on top.

Click Role: Dps and then ret paladin.

It gives you the latest updates. The latest updates is 13 hours or so.

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Me when I don’t know how to interpret data.

Idk about his point but our single target sucks. We are turning into some holy rot class now.

:face_with_diagonal_mouth:

Data doesn’t show that…
As of now, it show its mediocre at worst and upper-mid/lower top at best.
“Sucks” is doing less than an Aug Evoker on a fight like Sikran. (unless they solved all the hooks on it? )
We’re not there, at all.

Although it does feels like its 100% dependent on ES, which does blow, I’d rather it didn’t exist and that the ST would be pack elsewhere such as in FV and HoW.

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Exactly, well put.

Keep up the good fight my Brother of the Holy Light. I’m outta here for my cruise for a week.

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I still have Ret Paly bottom on Archon.

www.archon.gg/wow/tier-list/dps-rankings/mythic-plus/10/all-dungeons/this-week

On parse it shows 5th and DPS it’s 3rd, mythic score its in the bottom half but not that low which really doesn’t mean anything since my+ started this week.

On tier list it’s in B with a BUNCH of other specs…

Where is it last?

On raid?
Ohh not there either

:thinking: :thinking:

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What good point? I’m telling you ST feels bad and is bad. Go PvP literally anyone and you will feel it. Go do a single target fight and let me know how it works. What are you here to troll the community or something

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These guys are trolling the community aren’t they

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“Very niche things” must be pvp.

How so?

By being cautious about what we were seeing before the logs came out?
And pushing back against claims we’re in the dumpster after logs came out and didn’t say that at all?

Literally what we said can be summed up like this:

  • Preliminary data shows we’re doing ok (and somewhat still doing ok after 2 weeks even if we did slide)
  • Instrument is inflating the actual number
  • We have better scaling than we used to in DF so it shouldn’t be as hard a fall as the weeks go by compared to what it was last expac
  • Doesn’t mean we won’t be adjusted, doesn’t mean we will

Those are all pretty mild and level-headed things to say compared to the unhinged stuff people have been saying.

Blizzard is also aware of Instrument, believe or not.
As it ever occurred to anyone they might be waiting for people to get use to mechanics to see where Ret truly lies?

Even this thread try to pass M+ “point” as some kind of indication it’s not doing “good” damage in M+ when said “point” don’t even take that into account.

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I think you are naive at best, obstructing progress at worst. Jump into a rated bg or arena and let me know how it feels. Go single target with minimal adds and let me k ow how your meter shows. This isn’t a secret bro.

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