This is like the 10th time I’ve reposted the Nightfall thread in this thread where all of our evidence and testing is laid out for all to see…
Keftenk may have said that at the very beginning of our testing parses, but I never did - in the future you would be well to post quotes to the appropriate person before laying accusations out.
To be clear, this is the full paragraph of what he wrote (again at the VERY BEGINNING of our test efforts):
“I am going to go out on a limb here and say that an Alliance Hunter is going to have an upkeep with Nightfall somewhere around or slightly below Retribution Paladin. They should realistically probably be pretty close. Again, Haste is the key here. Then abilities afterwards, which Seal of Righteousness from what I can tell is the most reliable in applying NF.” - Keftenk
TLDR - he is making a PREDICTION - not final test results.
Never mind the fact that he goes on to say this as well regarding his first round of test using a Ret Paladin with SoR/JoR:
Keftenk - Today at 2:34 PM
so, i actually just did a sor/jor 5-minute test. fairly good numbers
Keftenk - Today at 2:34 PM
68.33% upkeep
Keftenk - Today at 2:35 PM
but do note…this was a 5minute test
it could be skewed
Keftenk - Today at 2:35 PM
but i think it warrants an hr test
seeing a number like that
But I digress, as I think you are confusing total number of procs with EFFECTIVE DEBUFF UPTIME.
We do not count the sheer number of procs that any class/spec can achieve but rather their ability to maintain effective uptime for the debuff.
These are the two macros you need in order to do so (on top of the Super Macro addon):
Macro 1
/in 1+ /script for i=1,16 do local texture = UnitDebuff(“target”,i); if texture and texture == “Interface\Icons\Spell_Holy_ElunesGrace” then NfCount = NfCount + 1; DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(NfCount) end end
Macro 2
/script SM_INFRAME:Hide(); NfCount = 0
Use Macro 2 first to clear your chat frame, then use Macro 1 - at the end of the boss fight combat press Macro 2 again to stop counting then refresh your UI to clear it.
for example
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484066218911727618/484066527721684992/double_nightfall.jpg
see the count in the chat window
the macro checks every second
to see if spell vulnerability is on the target
it yes, it adds +1 to the count
if no, it doesn’t
so in that PW example
i was swinging nightfall using SoR/JoR along with a melee hunter
and combined we got 150 seconds of total debuff uptime
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484066218911727618/484066529030438912/patchwerk_nightfall_uptime_two.jpg
that was me solo nightfall swinging
and got 89 seconds of total debuff uptime
make sense?
It is not my first intent to get into a fight with you or anyone else - but if people misquote me, or say that I skew test results or worse yet go and spew outright lies, then of course I am going to defend myself.
But if you want to have a calm and rationale discussion then I am all ears - all I ask is that you look at ALL of the data before making any rash/final thoughts about our results as they are legit.