Yes kings make it like 2% primary stats or something dont remember if another class has that or not since warriors took over our might Devotion is just there always active its purely a set and forget aura
They tried something similar with Ret Aura and the signal it gave to mythic raiding guild was that they had to bring 2 paladins.
Iām not one to tailor things for a specific minority but it does seems a bit unfair philosophically to āforceā the presence of a class twice because they would in turn tuned the encounters around it being available.
I know they flipped-flopped on this in the past as well, ābring player not the classā thing.
They made the buffs redundant across classes and paladin had the quirk of having 3 options but then since their balancing was so poor, it led to stacking more of the best spec which hurted representation even more.
I think 1 buff per class is a good in-between.
I think the more realistic option would be a unique quirk to set Ret apart from Holy and Prot who both have things neither of the 2 other spec brings.
I mean, 1 hour buffs are just that with extra steps.
Like, none of the 1 hour buff have gameplay related features, itās a button you press once before the fight, thereās no involvement in any of them.
Ret aura itself was weird 
oh someone died heres a buff for 8 seconds or something like that lol just weird we had wisdom kings and might and they gutted all 3 from us. I mean they made druids motw give vers and shamans now give mastery mages have always given int anyone give haste or crit buffs? Thinking about it what is up with mages buff? Gives what 5% int does anyone buff str or agil? Forgot about priests stam buff for a second
You didnāt play in DF did you?
Ret aura was reworked to give a decaying 5% damage whenever someone within it would take more that 30% of its life in damage.
It had a pretty high uptime too.
Thatās what Devotion aura is, thatās OUR buff, 3% less damage taken.
The fact we donāt have to actively press it is irrelevant, itās just flair related to the class having auras.
You try to bring a paladin on a raid to reduce the damage everyone is gonna take by 3% at all times.
DH buff is not a cast as well, its on the target they attack but itās a 5% buff to magic damage.
Monk has the same but for physical damage.
Rogue has a poison that reduces the damage done by the boss, not a traditional group buff but thatās their buff. (although this one is spec limited)
We never use those words in pvp. Touch of light is awful, not a single r1 uses it and for good reason it was 0.001% dps. ST and AA are bad abbreviation for single target and auto attack since we use abbreviation for spells and abilities already. Everything that isnāt a spell or ability doesnāt get abbreviated unless itās for AOE, PvP, CC, and other very popular abbreviations. ST is useless to specify and only used because of the introduction of M+ with mass cleave builds making people having to specify its single target. Auto attacks are also meaningless unless you play classic wow.
What theā¦
Pretty much everyone uses those.
ST vs AoE is very common.
Likeā¦ Youāre just wrongā¦
I hate to say it like this but thatās probably just your language barrier at this point.
Riddle me thisā¦
What does CSAA stands for?
Youāre here alot, you should know which talent weāre talking about.
Thatās an abbreviation for it, what does each letter means?
Which is it?
You just contradicted yourself in the same sentence.
If people have to specify then itās not useless.
M+ is an end game pillar with more players participating than PVP.
Tāa appris ton anglais oĆ¹?
SĆ©rieusement, tu es dur Ć suivre, cāest pas fort chef.
Pis pas juste Ć lāĆ©crit, on dirait que ta comprĆ©hension Ć la lecture aussi nāest pas trĆØs bonne.
Tu fais souvent des rĆ©ponses parsemĆ©s dāĆ©lĆ©ments complĆØtement hors sujet qui ont pas de lien avec les questions ou commentaire qui te sont fait.
I mainly only pvp now since itās the only thing actually challenging in the game. Soloed a tier 11 delve and realized how trivial pve is and how the game is balanced around players who click their spells and donāt use their brains. So thatās why I donāt care about anything but pvp in the game, itās the only competitive part of the game. MDI is only a fight for who has the best friends, put 5 pvp rank 1 in there and they win the MDI easily.
I learned English from school / world of Warcraft. Itās hard to explain things on the forum with all the restrictions and limitations. Reddit is way better at it.
Why donāt they then?
I find it hard to believe that of those top PVP players none have any desire to participate in those event.
Sounds more like a weird āsuperiority complexā you have that playing PVP makes you somehow better at every thing else.
How? Itās literally just explaining yourself with words on both.
What the hell are you gonna do different on reddit, do a live interactive? come onā¦
You want to post an image?
Just use this freaking tool
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/ret-dmg-nerfed-by-6/1990591/50
Weāll copy it into the search bar.
Weāre not monkeys.
lol, you should go on World of PvP discord, the official wow pvp discord and ask a r1 why. You will see in their response very easily why they donāt do it.
Spoilers : the most elitist players are toxic.
Every rank 1 is also a team you canāt get gladiator + with LFG so you always have 2 dps and 1 healer and the team never plays with other r1 teams because of rivalry. Ever tought why pikaboo doesnāt play with tigerlady in 2s ?
Why vanguards never plays with wizk ? Etc.
Every team is made of a roster and they donāt play with other teams. Never gonna see someone from THE MOVE compete with someone from cloud9.
Though I should add to this explanation that yes pvp is harder than everything else in the game by miles. Anyone good at pvp is good in every other part of the game apart from pet battle (but you could also be good at that if you pvp). The minimum to be good at pvp is gladiator.
Ever saw a gladiator messing up mechanics and wiping the raid ? Ever saw a gladiator lack in communication ? Ever saw a gladiator bottom on dmg ? These are all requirements to be gladiator in pvp so they have to have those skills to get the mount.
If you ever see a mage burst you know you gotta get out of that meteor in less than 1 sec or you get one shot. Itās PVE on testosterone.
Sounds like a cop-out.
Who would have guessed that toxic players canāt complete things that requires a larger amount of teamplay.
Being communicative and helpful is a skill required to complete and perform in those events, sounds like they lack āskillsā to me.
Ever wondered why none of the r1s just band together to get hero title in rbgs ? They could clearly do it, but itās like trying to mix oil and water.
Also you canāt post images on forum without GitHub which is a big pain. Iād send every screenshot of the changes in dmg since nobody ever bothered to do the average IQ move that I did but alas I canāt send screenshots on forum. Can send on discord and Reddit tho.
Use the quotes, you see that B button for Bold? Select your picture link and click on the </> symbol that is on its right side a few symbols.
I want to see the tooltip dmg change, since thatās unrelated to the talents that have gone away, it should actually be more since the 6% overall buff.
how do i mage a link without making a github account to show you a .png screenshot ?
Itās a pain. if you want to see them just join https://discord.gg/g8cqszfu
ill have the screenshots of pre change i took to compare with after change. You would have to wait for me to get in the game again to take screenshots of 11.0.5 changes because i didnāt take screenshots of after the patch.
Just search on google for online image host, for example you can use: https://imgbb.com/
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See, you say they couldā¦ and then IMMEDIATLY undermined it by saying exactly why they canāt.
its called sarcasm. they could physically, no rules of physics stop them, but its literally because human minds are āāspecialāā that people do or dont do things. Emotions rule the world.
Itās not. 
THIS is sarcasm
āOhh yeah youāre totally right on everything you said and also the definition of sarcasm is saying something and totally meaning what you saidā
Did you mean to say āitās a figure of speechā?
Because it would be more accurate to your use of āmixing water with oilā.
Yeah because the way they think makes them INCAPPABLE OF DOING IT.
In other words, they CANāT.
What you mean to say is, they should be able to.
Itās a supposition.
Because we have no empirical evidence they can, because they never did, as teams at least.
Iām sure we could find some players in MDI that also happens to bet top PVP players as well.
Which just goes to show that this reflex of demeaning players who donāt PVP is misguided or rather implying superiority because YOU play it.
Itās counter-productive to a dying gamemode that should really make some effort being more welcoming rather than off-putting.
And Iām not saying PVE canāt be toxic but it aināt exactly dying sooā¦
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If they do pvp, pve is probably a side hussle as streamers ( nobody is gonna be top pvp and pve and have a life ) and not the other way around. Pvperās and pve, but pveāers cant pvp for 99% of cases.
Thats why pvp is dying also, because rank 1 is 0.1% of 1% of the game which is 150 people normally in a good season ( I was top 90 during season 4 of SL and didnāt get rank 1 ) for a wow playerbase around 10 000 000 players.
So your right, there might be pvperās that are doing top pve content but they are probably all like xaryu is doing, streamers without a job or school. (xaryu is top 1 arcane mage in M+ right now and he just started doing pve, thats how huge the skill difference between pveāers and pvpers is)
After running a few keys yesterday my damage definitely feels like its gone down by more than the supposed 3%. I canāt help but wonder if that plus 6 aura buff was keyed in as a minus 6.
Mortalxās numbers of 390k down to 360k is almost exactly 6%.
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again feeding a mortalx thread is add to misinfo
no ret wasnt nerfed by 6%.