Got to love seeing all of these changes but nothing to Ret Pally that is hitting for 22k final verdicts…
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inb4 SAYS THE WARIER UR CLAS OP U CANT TALK!!!111 let’s have a productive discussion guys
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This is my alt I don’t even play… I play shadows priest and resto Druid…
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waiting for that one guy to be like “jUsT gOtTa CC tHe BuRsT BrO!!!11” 
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You got to admit… it’s pretty fun killing people in one shot isn’t it?!
not really gets old after you do it a lot then makes you think of the old days when the class was designed infinitely better then makes you want to stop playing at least that’s what happens to me
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Just kite wings.
Jokes aside, this is the first week. Give them time. Ret goes through phases, absolutely overpowered and utterly unplayable.
Blizzard is unlikely to ignore the one shots so we’ll probably see ret damage reduced by 80% because blizzard has no concept of balance. Hence MW monks going from garbage to God with no in-between.
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15k final reckoning, 15k wake of ash 20k divine toll. What’s not fun about it?
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But what if you mindgames the final verdict? Gotta think outside the box 
Mind games in a HOJ and dying in 1.3 seconds? also full burst setup trying to mind games a ret pally without getting kicked on shadow isn’t fun! I’m all for big damage but without a real chance to react is not reasonable
Eh, it was a joke but greater fade is not in the gcd, you can use it to negate half their entire dmg. I’m not saying the damage is fine bc it isn’t but ret can’t cc your entire team and is the easiest spec to cc in the game.
22k damage at lvl 35 is insanely high. This has to be a bug?
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Same or better damage than BfA destro with the upshot of you not even having to cast for the damage at all.
Pretty neat, I’d say.
Imagine it like BfA destro had only instant casts, screw 200% haste, just go instant cast all the way, and stick it to a melee that’s not really melee because who cares about downsides, right?
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lvl 60s in low lvl brackets are insane monsters who don’t die and do ridiculous amount of dps
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JuSt LiTeraLLy WaLK AwAY fRom ThE PaLadIN
gets hoJ
trinkets
gets blinding light
enemy teammate breaks it
thanks baby jesus
roots paladin
unpurgable W KEY freedom horse
somehow still gets away i dunno maybe paladin player needed to take meds rq mid game
dies to 3 hits while 14 yards away with 40% wall
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I agree nerf Rets and Wars
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As strong as ret currently is, it still can’t win awc lmao.
They should stop making ret all about damage, and make them have higher skill floor with new abilities
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Wait, is your take that rets don’t have a downside? Cuz honestly memes aside, you just kite them and they cant do anything
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“Just kite them”
That’s like saying in order to counter a rogue “just stun them”
Or to counter a healer “just cc them”
In reality it’s a little hard to kite a ret with unbound freedom and final reckoning and final verdict and judgement all hitting 15k or more from range and deleting your entire team
Such a bad argument
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Ret is a killer in lower brackets, but in higher brackets people just trade CC for wings and call it a day. Honestly, if I played Ret, I’d hate the current status quo. You either land your combo and win or you don’t, and you lose.
Judgement slow needs to come back, tone down the burst, increase sustain. A 6 second instant and talented 10 second 1 man CC chain is enough to get a kill, just make it take a little finesse.
The most BS thing about Ret is Healing Hands. Just remove that talent and replace it with something else. Spell ward maybe, idk.
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