Ret aura removal

You realize this would be a 24 man raid minimum, yes?

What do you want, 26 instead so it’s 2 of everyone? This is even assuming your streamer bogeyman’s raid comp is indeed going to be meta, and that the majority of people care about said meta (in PUGs they do not.)

dont know what you are talking about, other classes have utilities that can stack, so the raid lead don’t mind multiple of them, paladin however, without auras there is no reason, this is oppressing to our class intentionally because the “devs” looking at his numbers and too many ppl playing paladin, instead of redesign and making the class harder to play so less ppl play it, rogue for example, this “dev” decided to take the easy way out by taking out the reason to bring ret into the raid, easy gg, getting paid as usual.

You legitimately have no clue what you’re talking about, do you?

idk, you are the vulpera not me

Do you have a guild, or are you pugging?

I personally don’t have time to do CE, but the CE players that I know are switching off from ret paladin because the guild no longer need the 2nd paladin due to no aura. Fact

You’re dodging the question. Fine, we can talk generally.

Good. If you don’t see the problem with a needed 2nd paladin, you’re beyond saving.

dodging what question, if you want to play mind game with me you can stop right now, I have a feeling you are trolling, going to block you gg

I know your attention span isn’t this short.

why would ANY other class care?

You’re so close to getting it.

Maybe a reminder that the duplicates beyond that aren’t forced via raidwide benefits.

They shouldn’t but they don’t know they shouldn’t, that’s careless this decision is, literally these ppl are saying they don’t care about the aura but we are removing it just cus, for what, Paladin lovers will not love shamans instead I guarantee you.

Also the tippy top race to the world first guild ppl is screaming on the top of the mountain since Paladin has 2 raid buffs it is effecting their raid composition, so the entire wow has to change for them, literally no one else care. We are paying the game for these guilds cuz we should care about them cage themselves into a building and beat the raid as soon as possible. “After we beat the raid wayyyy faster than all of you, come worship me on my stream so I can make more money off you lower IQ ppl cuz I am just smarter than you, all of you should listen to me.” Congratulations :confetti_ball: World of Streamercraft

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So is Havoc disposable because Vengeance exists? Are Fury/Arms disposable because Prot exists? Is WW disposable because MW/Brm exist?

The goal of raid buffs is to make it optimal to bring 1 of every CLASS to the raid. Not spec, class.

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Correction, it was a reason to bring a second paladin to have both auras.

Now it’s back to needing a mandatory min. of 1, not 2, like any other class with a raid buff

Nope, right now the mythic raids are bringing one DH one Paladin and multiple of other classes. Removing ret aura achieved nothing but removing one Paladin spot from the raid, is it fair for other classes being stackable and paladins are not? Give me an example that the 2nd Paladin is taking someone’s one spot so that particular class is not brought, I will be waiting for your link.

What exactly are you saying?

Right now every class has 1 mandatory raid buff, Pallies had 2, they were the only class you absolutely needed 2 of, and hunters are arguable as Mark is still eh.

Thats 13 spots taken, the remaining 7 will vary based on the type of guild, current meta, etc etc.

I’m waiting for an example that the ret aura 2nd Paladin is taking someone’s spot which effect the game balance, where is the link, or you are just imagining things. You want to use it as an excuse then show example, simple as that. We are all playing this perfectly balance game called wow right, how dare the ret aura ruining it all.

Removing mandatory raid buffs is good; they should do it more.

We’re pretty stoked that we don’t have to run double-Paladin at all times, anymore. Even our Paladins are happy about it.

What part of “they had 2 mandatory raid buff” was not clear? Mandatory raid buff = spot taken. Therefore, if a class has 2, you have 14 reserved class slots, instead of 13. Thats just how numbers work.

You want a link to… what exactly? To a raid log that has 2 paladins…? Like, just go on warcraftlogs and have fun I suppose

Name one Paladin that is happy about ret aura being removed.