I’m ilvl 605, 11% crit, 34% haste, 9% mastery, 9% vers. 8/8n 4/8h 2x
590 Evokers, Shamans, and Holy Paladins are still 30% above me in overall healing by the end of an encounter.
I’m literally getting removed from raids, whispered that I’m bad, told to heal more, etc. I know I’m not THAT bad. I’d actually consider myself half-decent as a Resto Druid.
It’s hard enough getting INTO a group, even after the hotfix.
We need help. I haven’t even played the game in the past few days because I can’t progress.
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The spec was neutered with nerfs that primarily effected raid. GG don’t heal, Loss of tier set, loss of luxuriant soil, Photosynthesis nerf, and nerf of nurturing dormancy which you cant really even talent into anyways. It’s going to take a lot to move the needle for druid and Blizzard’s mentality that healers that only provide HPS in raids should have higher HPS than their utility healer counterpart seems to have only lasted 1 expansion.
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Should we stack mastery? I feel like haste is doing NOTHING. 
Just got removed from another Heroic Brood group, after 5+ pulls with me NEVER dying due to mechanics. First pull we got the boss to 3%. Then RL kept inviting people.
SoRrY mAn No HaRd FeElInGs
No, there ARE hard feelings. This is the only character I want to play, I even enjoy the playstyle. Bump my GD healing output, being ostracized from content doesn’t feel good at all.
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10 more Heroic Brood pulls. Wipes never my fault, my eggs always handled, cleanse on time.
Sorry bro we need more HPS. I’m literally unsubbing until Blizzard fixes this.
Yeah, 6/8H and there’s only 2ish fights I can beat some of our other healers on. Guild just got a brood down last night and I was like 50m+ less than the next healer at the end, even though I started out strong. Dungeons also feel absolutely terrible when there’s a lot of big damage going out, I just can’t catch up.
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Feels like resto Druids are missing a button lol. I’d rather they go back through and try to buff up hero talents for them but that’s probably foo much work so they’re going to keep doing 4% buffs here and there
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Did a few more pulls last night, with a much smaller raid comp (2/2/8). We didnt get anywhere near downing the boss, but I made an observation
My average HPS was 7-800k, instead of 4-600k in larger comps.
This was repeatable, each pull was significantly higher HPS than groups with 3-5 healers.
I also spent a little time on the Druid Discord
reviewing top (for Resto) logs. Ignoring Lifebloom cuz duh. Germination Rejuv and Regrowth spam w/Wild Growth on CD. Full HoT ramp on raid + Flourish. Are you healing more than your trees, because you should be.
On Tuesday Resto Druid is getting another 4% aura buff, that will put it middle to upper middle of the pack for raid, so it will be mostly fine. The only issue still is that Preservation Evoker is 110% busted in raid right now and is doing 20% more healing than every other healing spec, Engulf or whatever their ability is called is completely broken and needs to be nerfed significantly.
I mean this statement is just patently false. RDruid is about 19% behind the top healer (HPally) in Heroic and 17% behind the top healer (PreVoker) in Mythic aggregate logs. A 4% buff is a joke and is unlikely to even take the spec out of last place in either, and should have been closer to an additional 15% buff.
Also, the spec has fundamental issues even beyond throughput - it is 7th of 7 healing specs in representation in both Mythic raiding and in keys +10 or higher right now. Even beyond having trash throughput, Druids have weak healing patterns (a lack of burst, single target spot healing, and the weakest raid CDs of any spec). There is also nothing the spec brings in terms of unique raid utility unless you need to take it for your single MoTW buff (entirely possible given the state of the class as a whole). Stampeding Roar is good, but Shaman of all 3 specs are meta and bring something just as good. Given all of their healing pattern and utility weaknesses, Druids need to be at the top in throughput to even have viability at their current class design levels, not bottom of the pack. The spec shouldn’t be healing less than HPallies, Disc Priest and RShaman who have so much more to offer.
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Best guess; they doing baby steps in % tuning because they dont want to overbuff us for when 11.0.5 comes out.
If they actually believe the changes they made so far on ptr are good enough to fix the spec(lol) then they probably believe ~15% more raw healing needed to make us decent now would leave us super overtuned when the patch goes live and theyd need to nerf us after less then 2 months.
So instead theyre nickle and diming small buffs just enough that people dont quite the spec and game.
Right, so we should just sit tight and fall behind in season 1 while they get their selves in line. No. They can easily buff us now and tune upon 11.0.5 release or shortly after.
People are already quitting the spec.
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That’s a garbage excuse because if we are tuned way too strong in 11.0.5, they can and will nerf just as easily. It absolutely does not excuse leaving the spec in a borderline unplayable state for weeks by not doing sufficient tuning waiting for an indefinite period for the next patch. By the time that patch comes out, raid comps will be locked in and the M+ meta will be set and there will be no catching up until the next tier.
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The only real outlier healer right now is Preservation, every other heal spec will be within a percent or two of Resto Druid in raid healing on Tuesday after the 4% buff hits - which makes it more than playable for raid.
Judging by Mythic performance so far in terms of HPS this 4% buff will place Druid above both priest specs, above mistweaver, relatively even with shammy, and maybe 2-3% below holy pally. I’m not even going to compare it to Preservation because that spec is so busted right now that it is 100% getting nerfed the second the world first race finishes.
Could holy pally use another small nerf when you factor in that they also bring damage reduction? Sure, but that’s just how it goes; at least it will only be around 2% ahead or so in the 80th percentile.
If you think I’m wasting my time making stuff up for this forum, shows a bit about YOUR character.
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By the looks of it, He’s main is a Brewmaster Monk, although he has many alts but none seem to be Druid his Brew seems most geared, progress in raid and keys. Although I haven’t really looked into it just a quick look.
The current Mythic logs are skewed and largely useless - there are only 276 RDruid Mythic logs period, 140 of which are on Ulgrax. Sikran and Rashanan with 34 and 35 logs are currently making up 50% of that aggregate. On top of that, the spec is so widely acknowledged as bad that the only RDruids that would even be in for top ranked mythic progression like that are the very best players - a 25th percentile evoker is better than a 99th percentile RDruid.
You can’t base anything reasonable on Mythic logs, or if you want to, Ulgrax is the only one with any kind of sample size - RDruid is 26% behind on that sample size. Or, look at Heroic, where the 8% buff didn’t even move the needle. You are delusional if you think a 4% buff puts the spec middle of the packl,
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no it doesn’t… nobody is removing good resto druids from raids.
it is a skill issue.