So I’m in a guild and we are working on t5 content and I’ve got a resto druid healer in my raid group. Hes alright but I’ve noticed a recurring event in all of our non farm nights, every boss about 50-60% in he drops the one thing I never want to hear from a healer in discord: “I’m Oom”
Now in five mans I cant recall a resto druid ever going oom or dipping past 50%, so I am asking you the fine healers of this board for some insight. Am I missing something? Should a resto druid really be ooming on a progression fight every time? I always thought they excel as raid healers, am I wrong?
Thanks in advance for any input, theories, and suggestions you may offer.
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It would be easier for us to look at his logs to see exactly what’s going on as their may be stuff not accounted for.
Logs will give me the whole picture.
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He’s probably throwing out a ton of max rank Regrowths and killing his mana fast.
Yea that’s why I think it’s just easier to look at logs, gives the full picture.
Depending on how well the group is geared and the amount of damage the group is taking going out of mana sometimes on long boss fights happens. But something is really going wrong if it happens at around 50% on every fight.
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I checked his logs for the night and even on the easy fights he was at 80% over healing.
is probably what’s going on. Gonna have to try and get him to work on the overhealing too, I dont think it should be that high tbh.
Are their healing assignments??
I believe he should be using hots to just heal the raid.
Is he using mana potions and runes during the fight?
Maybe he/she doesn’t understand some of the fights and is frantically trying to top people off who took damage even tho their will be no more damage following up on them and a hot would of been fine.
It’s hard to really say without logs.
Yeah we have heal assignments but I dont really handle that, I think he might just be overextending tbh. Our guilds main healer is gonna work with him tonight to try and fix it and we will have a spriest tonight so hopefully that helps too.
Well that’s good.
It doesn’t seem like you want to give logs which is fine but it’s really hard to dissect the problem without the data.
Hopefully the main healer sets him straight
link logs you can make them anonymous if you don’t want people to know your guild/name
I have asked like 3 times to help him but it doesn’t seem like he/she wants to, it’s just hard to fully grasp what’s going on until you look thru logs.
Idk why people would ask for help with a raid setting but not link logs as that’s the best way to actually help people and that’s exactly what logs are for.
Most likely because maybe 20% of the readers will try to help and the other 80% will use the numbers to mock the raiders for being “suck” players.
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Healing in a coordinated raid group is so incredibly different from healing a random group in a dungeon. If you’re not abiding by heal assignments and just trying to heal anyone who needs healing, you’re not going to do well.
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Pretty much this. Plus I dont want them to come to the forums and feel like they are being ridiculed. The person isn’t holding us back we just one shot the first three bosses in ssc, even one shot leo on our first attempt at the boss ever.
our druids literally JUST use lifebloom, roll it on all the tanks. Druids are buffer healers and they are damn fine at it. If your dps is lacking, if your healer is not potting, if you dont have a healer spriest group. All can oom a healer fast. raid taking too much dmg? issue. bad healing comp? issue. Not enough healers, issue. Overhealing really does not mean much for druids, hots are gonna overheal like freaking crazy. Esp lifebloom.
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You’re better off going into the druid discord and asking for help tbh, might be easier to link logs as opposed to the forums.
Just hard to help in this kind of situation as the tool we use to help players isn’t being utilized in this situation so all we can go off of is just guesses.
Np I’ll give that a look into, tbh I just wanted to be certain it wasn’t just me having a misconception about the class more than figuring out what they should do. He did perform better tonight though.
overhealing is standard for a druid because you have lifeblooms ticking constantly on a tank who may or may not take damage, but you still have to have the blooms stacked because you can’t start stacking blooms after the damage went out, your tank will be a pool of blood
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He not only should not have big mana issues he should often be able to give away his innervate to a mage or priest. Besides pulls where things get super scuffed, hard fights like vashj or big healing fights like leo he should be able to give away his own innervate IF he is using mana pot on cd. I typically shy away from dark runes because they are expensive, but no excuse not to have a couple stacks of mana pots to chug on the more healing intensive fight.
And he should also be doing like 80% life bloom healing except maybe solarian and possibly void reaver if he goes for rejuv strat. Life bloom is an insanely powerful spell that should be used a lot.
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Probably casting max rank Regrowth too often or when it’s unnecessary—as others have stated.
Tell them to downrank Regrowth—also try and get them to become less reliant on it in general. Only use it to save someone near death or who is about to take a lot of damage.