Request: Bring Back GDKP for Phase 3 (4 now)

[Jacktorrence-benediction]

It made an immense dent and greatly reduced bots and rmt. Huge improvement.

[Blayser-moon-guard (Blayser)]

@Badtotems-lone-wolf

Naturally GDKP filtered them, they then came here to reeeee for a year straight. They legit think GDKP is full of swipers and that’s the only reason it exists.

If not for swipers, GDKP wouln’t even exist because of bidders not being able to pay a satisfying amount for those items.

[Draug-shattered-hand (Draug)]

@Blayser-moon-guard

If not for swipers, GDKP wouln’t even exist because of bidders not being able to pay a satisfying amount for those items.

1. there are tons of legit ways to earn gold in WoW if you enjoy the grind.
2. The item is only going to go for 1 bid increment higher then whatever the 2nd highest bidder is willing to pay.
3. any amount of gold is a satisfying amount, because along with the gold comes the other benefits of it being a GDKP (less leavers, at least half the group is competent players who are able to pick up the slack of under performing players so the entire raid isn’t a struggle bus, gear is going to go to people who can use it, etc…)
4. The ban was a failure as it did not get rid of bots or RMT in SoD. Swipers are still swiping. The only thing it did was made it so a popular loot system was no longer allowed to be used, and that (in my book) is wrong.

[Intrude-whitemane]

LOL, You live in a fantasy world. Have you tried taking a look around lately?

[Jacktorrence-benediction]

Wrong. Huge reduction in rmt and bots since the gdkp ban. As a none gdkp’er how do you know whether others were satisfied with the amount of gold they would receive without rmt. I dont think you are qualified to speak for the gdkp community as a non gdkper.

[Jacktorrence-benediction]

You obviously didnt play p1. Or short memory. All the available data shows a reduction in bots and rmt.

[Intrude-whitemane]

Endless stream of bots going in and out of Stocks, Countless fishing bots everywhere, crazy AH prices. Open your eyes.

[Draug-shattered-hand (Draug)]

@Jacktorrence-benediction

Wrong. Huge reduction in rmt and bots since the gdkp ban. As a none gdkp’er how do you know whether others were satisfied with the amount of gold they would receive without rmt. I dont think you are qualified to speak for the gdkp community as a non gdkper.

Because I did GDKPs back in classic with a group where I KNOW RMT wasn’t a thing, and I was satisfied with the payout. In fact if GDKPs were allowed again but there was some method to ensure no RMT gold was involved, I would jump back into doing them, even if I knew the payout was only going to basically be a few gold here and there.

As for a reduction in RMT and bots? I don’t think so. I have actually seen 3x as many bots this phase as i did during phase 1.

[Drinknblink-benediction]

This is just factually not correct.

You just see gdkps banned and think its all better, its not.

Blizzard didnt do anything to combat rmt and bots.

[Returnfire-grobbulus]

Keep ur gold buying in wrath, we don’t want it here.

[Jacktorrence-benediction]

false. keep your rmt and pay to win out of SoD. we dont need your gdkp kind around here.

[Papoose-lone-wolf]

Gdkps are great at forcing the economy into a state where you’re either swiping or you aren’t playing.
It hikes prices up on everything, GDKPs do not have comraderie give me a brake.
GDKPs are some of the most toxic environments ever created, you’re there to push for speed and everyone is judgemental on everyone else in the run for what they bid or dont bid on what drops. The only friendship that sparks are between the host and a MT if they arent one already.

While they were gone in P2 people were actually making profit playing the game theyre sat at their computers for in the professions they have. It’s hilarious to me that anyone is trying to spin this. Removing GDKPs didn’t remove gold buying / botting.
But overall abundance of it? Oh yeah it took it a major hit. You can try and deny that fact all you want.

[Intrude-whitemane]

You really just said “Nuh uh”

[Jacktorrence-benediction]

SoD and classic are different. you have no information on sod gdkp’s. you do not participate in them or have a desire to. you can not speak for the community and have no interest in the community. its time to stop promoting cheating. the gdkp ban was a big hit to illicit gold and rmt. we know this. your anecdotal “I have seen bots” analysis does not even begin to consider any number of variables or constitute an effectual analysis of the amount of botting or RMT. the fact is you want to gdkp because you want to receive illicit RMT gold. you can deny it all you want. time to give up RMT and cheating.

[Papoose-lone-wolf]

@Drinknblink-benediction

Blizzard didnt do anything to combat rmt and bots.

Sure they did. They removed GDKPS.
This removes an enormous incentive for players to buy the gold in the first place.
That’s a major hit at rmt.
So. Its kind of factually correct.

[Jacktorrence-benediction]

time for you to stop cheating. gdkp and illicit activity is in separable. those are the facts. they are no longer up for debate. time to go to retail or wotlk if you want to swipe for gear.

[Argentia-defias-pillager]

@Grresh-living-flame

its banning is a big reason why SOD is as popular as it is.

lol, definitely not

[Delvin-skyfury]

@Jef-wild-growth

I think its safe to say that botting and gold-selling were still prevalent

The point was to reduce gold selling and botting, not eliminate it 100%. Eliminating it 100% is an impossible goal, but you can take action to reduce the problem. It was pretty successful at reducing the problem by decreasing the amount of gold circulating in the economy. Blizzard just needs to grow a spine and give permanent bans to swipers, and pipe dream hire some damn human being GMs to ban bots.

@Jef-wild-growth

and AH prices remained high.

Outside of pendulum of doom, what was unaffordable to honest gold farmers? Virtually everything was within reach of anyone who puts a shred of effort in the game, but I guess for GDKPers even 1 shred of effort is too much to handle.

[Drinknblink-benediction]

The people who bought gold are still buying gold.

Every phase there is going to be 3+ BOE bis items.

If peopel bought gold for gdkps you think now their like “man i guess i just wont buy gold anymore”??

Youre actually insane if you think they care lmfao.

[Papoose-lone-wolf]

@Draug-shattered-hand

I KNOW RMT wasn’t a thing

back in classic…hmmm.
Im assuming we’re talking era?
What cluster are you playing on?
If you’re playing on Whitemane which is at this point and for the last idk 2 years… or so the only cluster that is at all active whatsoever you’re straightlining copium my friend.
Not only is RMT all over every single gdkp you step foot in. If you aren’t swiping you aren’t going. People are dropping 25k+ on some items in even MC. Choker? 30k+ Accuria? 40k+ Onslaught? oh boy.
Don’t even get me started on Nax runs dude. Theres such a limited amount of guilds clearing that content now they have damn near a monopoly on gdkps. They gold check you at the door items are going for over 250k gold in there.
Outside of Gdkps they have people buying absurd amounts of gold for people to run sand for them in silithus for their honor gains each week. Before the changes to the honor system there was a “SandLord” who was spending over $2,000.00 USD a week to get his cap done by wednesday after reset.
If you’re going to ‘honestly’ sit here and say you KNOW for a FACT the environent you saw is free of RMT. Youre just a liar.