Seeds can give more than 5 rep.
Anyway… has anyone explained yet why this even matters?
Mind you, that spreadsheet was from day one before they nerfed the seeds, it was 20 per seed that was not maxed out and didn’t even require you to contribute a seed which meant there was no real limiting factor as long as one person in the group planted a seed when most only had to give 5 dew for 20 rep.
To summarize, the macro concept doesn’t work, or by most standards shouldn’t be able to work. Most of the people that got high renown day one did crazy things but most of which are not actual exploits but rather players going very hard on farmable content until blizzard decided to shake up how the rewards were given.
Yea and I regretted it after lmao, Had to work tuesday, got home Wednesday morning and went straight to lvling alt to 10 then getting main to 15 right as the seed nerf went out. My old body felt like hell playing that long lmao
Yeah, my first day I was just playing as normal. Meanwhile, people in guild discord playing their human alts to rush to 10 before going on their mains.
That’s what I did. Human + DMF
The Human racial needs to go away.
It’s an obvious exploit, and “exploit early and often” isn’t really a good culture for a game to have.
People find these bugs/exploits on the PTR, but competitive guilds have no incentive to have them fixed if they know Blizzard won’t punish for abusing them.
That is an entirely different topic of discussion, the biggest offender in Dragon flight has been the alt catch up mechanic has been doubling as a early slingshot for Main characters, primarily with a lot of renown being given in large chunks from non-repeatable sources
It’s not just competitive guilds, this goes back to the “beargate” incident from Cata, where, if you never changed your talents, you carried the old Wrath talents (which were removed in Cata) into Cata, so you were double-dipping on defensive abilities.
People found it in beta, and just kept it to themselves. Then when other bears were complaining about being a tissue-paper tank, the people using this exploit just bragged about how they were not having any issues and the people complaining must just be bad.
Blizzard had no idea what was happening. Here’s the eventual post from Bashiok when Blizzard finally realized what was going on.
Ahh yes , the posts with random CAPTILIZATION of WORDS, nice WORK brah !! that WILL Surely GET THEIR aTTEnTIOn
Taking consideration what it would mean to exploit. If a player sits and farms a repetitive task for 15 hours of their time, would Blizzard be right to take away what they did even after nerfing what they did so other people couldn’t repeat it in the same way? Not as it was cheating, but they likely didn’t want to have people feel forced to grind the plants to 20 first week.
It wasn’t even a secret either, there were groups in the group finder advertising it in raid groups just farming those plants, anyone could have chose to do it and it wasn’t an exploit but rather the only repeatable way to grind rep. So… not quite the same as an exploit when it was just a long, boring grind that Blizz adjusted.
Farming seeds for hours is very different. There is nothing that indicates you should have stopped getting rep at any point in time. The fact that all Blizzard did was nerf shows that is the case. They just didn’t like how fast people were getting rep.
I’m referring to using a macro to benefit for bonus rep well past rank 10, which is pretty obvious of an exploit. There was also a gif floating around of limit players doing something very suspicious at seeds, but that got patched today. Naturally, they will face 0 punishment for whatever they were exploiting there I’m sure.
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That exploit doesn’t actually exist, the original post was linking to someone speculating trying to figure out how people had more rep than they did and that was one theory they came up with but there hasn’t been any proof of such and knowing people who did push that grind already had spreadsheets with the math (that I posted above) which didn’t make use of any shenanigans as the original OP suspected. They would use one 2.5k rep token just before crossing the threshold where the Renown 10 buff stops working, there wasn’t a super button that did that for every token.
There is no punishment to give for something that didn’t happen.
I had guildies mention big time players used the macros, but it could all just be hearsay then.
I would at the very least roll back all the rep.
If blizzard is kind (or a bunch of push overs) then they should roll back the XP and give back the rep items used.
If blizzard wants to set an example then temp
Ban and roll back XP and return the items.
If blizzard wants to be a bit mischievous then reroll the XP and don’t return the rep items 
I checked with a reliable source, and they confirmed it most certainly existed, but it was fixed.
Rumors and misinformation spread like wildfire.
All it takes is a clickbait title to rile the imagination.
In the end, the changes were a buff for some and a nerf for others, players who wanted to no-life grind are sortof told it is a waste of time given the massively reduced payout. While players like me, who want renown without the multiple-hour grind get a bigger chunk of renown for a 15-20 minute weekly. Less time grinding and more time playing works for me.
Honestly I agree there should be a zero tolerance policy on deliberate exploits.
That is to say, if the exploit requires additional actions to take place that is not something someone would do during the normal course of their play it should 100% always be a bannable offense.
However, if an exploit can happen under normal playing circumstances then Blizzard should take the blame for that as it’s no fault to the player to simply gain something by playing as they always would.
~~Harsher punishments should happen to individuals that are discovered to have used this exploit in any sort of test environment and did not report it.
Well, if history is anything to go by, whoever does this is likely to get hit with the heavy fist of Blizzard. See this:
Blizzard Taking Action Against World Quest Exploits - Wowhead News
“Recently, it was brought to Blizzard’s attention that players were hitting Exalted with Battle for Azeroth factions due to a World Quest exploit. Blizzard has announced that they are working on a solution and will be taking action against those who used the exploit to gain reputation.”
Now, the methodology was a bit different but the outcome was the same, although the earlier issue involved gear and gold, and was a lot more serious. But I would not be surprised to see something similar happen.
This is going to happen with Early Access as well so have fun. Gonna be funny to see a bunch of people who paid for early expansion access exploit the hell out of the game get a head start and have zero punishment while they hotfix it before anyone else can do the exploit.