Reputation Macro Exploit. Why is this accepted?

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/reputation-macro-exploit-why-is-this-accepted/476127/1 (EU Forum)

Basically this topic.

Why Blizzard are LITERALLY doing NOTHING to punish those abusers?

To use a macro that use ALL Reputations token in ONE CLICK, for THEM to gain ALL 100% reputations bonus should be banned/Rollback.

100% UNFAIR to the people who worked their mind out(legitimally) and only got like Renown 8-8, while there is people who exploited and got Renown 20 ON DAY 1…

Blizz, why are you letting them go with a slap on the wrist while other people doing LESS worse than that and are getting pounished more harshly?

It’s 100% CERTAIN that “Raid World FIrst” Runners who used this exploit, and will go unpunished by BLizzard.

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I r confused

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Blizzard not having done anything yet is not the same as them doing nothing about it. Accusations of using an exploit have to be investigated. Some people talking about it on the forum, and vaguely alluding to some streamer doing it, is not a lot to go on. Even if blizzard identifies who they are talking about they’re not going to immediately go stomp them based on some forum chatter. They’re going to look at the actions of the account, confirm what they’ve done, if anything. How they did it. See if they can put in a fix based on what they found. Then, if deemed appropriate, they will take action against the account.

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I am too. Ngl. Lol.

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We saw times and times again, that they have does nothing on SOME occasions, but did SOMETHING on others occasions cough Artifact Power cough

They need to be consistent like they are doing with WoW Classic.

If i got rightfully banned WITHIN 12 HOURS of doing an exploit(rightfully so) then WHY the RWF’ers or abusers of this CLEAR EXPLOIT don’t get banned like i d d 10 years ago?..

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if this is the seed part not exploit just a lot of farming the seeds and dew items.

The thing here is.

They got to Renown 10 on an alt(assuming a human since it 10% increase reputations + 10% reputatiosn from DMF) to get Renown 10, so on their man, they gain a 100% increase reputations bonus on all character below Renown 10

THe Abuser got their Renown to 9 by farming A LOT AND A LOT OF SEEDS.

They turned every seed up tp a point at Renown 9 (and a few experience away from Renown 10)

Then they gathered all their tokens that granted Reputations to the Dream Warden, and in ONE CLICK of a button, they used a macro which redeemed EVERY SINGLE reputations tokens)probably a good 5+ tokens awarding 500 reputations and a few granting 2500 rep) of Dream Warden which would grant ALL OF THEM the 100% reputations gains.

IF that doesn’t sound like an exploit to you, then i do not know what that is.

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is not an exploit they had to fix it so its a weekly thing now and they had to keep the seed lvl low

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NO, the seed farm iis PERFECTLY fine… Props to them to go hardcore on that…

The PART that is abusing is redeeming ALL TOKENS that grant the 100% rep bonus because they’re Renown 9*and a few rep away)

ANd they jumped from Renown 9 24xx/2500 to Renown 20 in ONE CLICK.

IF that isn’t exploiting, then i do not know what to tell you.

I thought that redeeming 1 rep token would occur a GCD, but seem i was wrong.

The way it should have went is… if this is not an exploit, then redeeming the first token)within the macro) should award the 100% rep bonus, which would bring you at Renown 10, and the remaining token grant the same amount on the tokens

So people who got to like Renown 15 probably did farm A LOT OF seed to Renown 9 24xx/2500 WHICH IS PERFECLTLY FINE, it was probably a slip-up by Blizzard.

Used the 2500 tokens which would grant 5000 rep,(which would land them at Renown 11 24xx/2500) and the rest of the token rewarding the normal amount, which seem to collide with around Renown 15.

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i agree on that i dont know how the token click like that went through

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I dont see what the issue is tbh.
So they got their rep up a bit earlier than most.
All they did was lose out on enjoying the zone for longer.

Not like theres anything locked behind the rep that is a must have or anything.

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At the end of the day it’s a matter of intent; a lot of people willingly took advantage of an exploit for personal gains because they decided that they weren’t likely to get punished for it, and probably won’t be.

Downplay it with “it’s only a bit of rep”, or “it’s only a reusable augment rune”, but they know what they were doing wasn’t right. Again, matter of intent. They didn’t’ stumble upon this by mistake.

Macro to use all their rep tokens at once so they get 100% bonus rep for each rather than only until 10 like if you had done it normally because the items lack a shared (global) cd.

Though sketchy means that people turned off their stream to do because they knew what they were doing was grey area.

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If they grinded one character up to renown 10, and then another character up to renown 9, id say they put in enough work tbh.
If they had done all that on one character they would have been nearly there anyhow.

If there was any actual advantage to having max renown i would see how it was a problem.
But the renown is fully optional. All they got was some mounts quicker than most.

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If they had put enough work in they wouldn’t be cheesing/exploiting, though, so obviously not. :dracthyr_crylaugh:

Again, intent and community sentiment to exploit early and often because stuff gets fixed and those who were opportunistic get to keep the spoils.

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I dont mean literally enough that way.
Just enough work as in, its probably way more effort than my legit renown 20 is going to take.

Thanks anonymous alt account. :dracthyr_heart:

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Was that directed at me?
I wasnt quoted so im not sure.

If it was, we’ve interacted enough for you to know im an EU player which is why i cant post on my main here.

On the EU forums, i do post on my main.
Hes a void elf monk called moritz.
Anyone who uses both forums would have seen my main many times.

Ive also posted my main on these forums many times as well.
Here, ill do it again.
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/hellfire/moritz

this nothin new, all df rep like this, buff dont go away immediate so u can keep click and click if u want, no macro needd. been like that all of df

cant say exploit early explot often cuz it not even early, blizz just dont care

lets do some maths to see how this works out ( I havent pre done it so I am interested myself ) doing it the proper way .

They would of had 4 2500 tokens by that point so using thefirst takes them to 11 24xx
teh nex three to 15 24xxx

so to get to 20 they would of needed 10000 and a bit extra rep . so highly unlikely they had enough tokens .

Also to answer your question on why you got an imeadiate ban and so far they havent is because AP was player power and was teh only source of this power . Nothing from the current rep offers power that cant be got elsewhere .

Still its abusing the system so should eventually recieve some sort of action

Except If this is teh case then there they have done nothing wrong. I actually cant see how a macro would be able to open them all in teh same instant anyway , sure it would be much quicker than you clicking each individually but still not all at once

I get the point behind the complaint actually.

In other words, don’t think of it as reputation. Think about it as experience. If you got to level 60, right? And the cap is 70. And let’s say you had a token which allowed you to use it for experience, but after level 60, it wouldn’t grant anything anymore. People are using a macro to use all of the tokens all at once, thereby gaining the experience and bypassing a restriction by utilizing a method that computes the gain faster than a restriction can be placed.

It’s a weird logistical mess. Is it something that Blizzard can justifiably punish though? I don’t think so because a macro within their own game utilizing their own coding is what made it possible. It’d be different if it was a bug and unintentional like farming the azerite WQ’s back in BFA when the Drustvar one bugged out. But this is someone utilizing a macro, which in the grand scheme of things, should be within the line.

Now, can Blizz say “Well hold up, we don’t like this” and break said macro? Yes. But is it punishable? I don’t think so.

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