All rogue specs feel pretty good to play, but the one constant between them all is that maintaining Slice and Dice feels pretty bad and at the very least needlessly muddles the rotation.
Having to use multiple globals at the beginning of a pull or pack to put up an attack speed steroid that has literally no impact on your gameplay but a noticeable impact on your performance feels bad.
Since many passives in each rogue spec involve attack speed, Slice and Dice can’t simply be removed, so please replace it with a buff akin to DK’s Icy-Talons. For example:
Your finishing moves increase your melee attack speed by 16.67% for 10 sec, stacking up to 3 times.
Or something like that.
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The ramp up is one of the things that bugs me about my rogues, especially in solo content where stuff dies faster. Maybe something that let’s us cast a two, maybe three, combo point Slice and Dice for free in stealth so we can enter combat with it active might be good? Maybe with a cooldown. We’d still have to refresh it in combat like now, but at least the ramp up wouldn’t be so bad. I dunno.
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Is it too much that you have to press slice and dice once every 30 seconds instead of envenom/dispatch/evicerate/rupture? Add between the eyes for outlaw, you basically have a prio system. What’s so feels bad about it?
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All of those abilities do damage, and I can see them do damage. Slice and Dice inadvertently adds damage, but you don’t really see it.
It isn’t so terrible that it absolutely ruins the specs, but it certainly doesn’t make them feel better to play. Why not just make it passive if I’m going to have a near 100% uptime on it anyways?
It’s in-line with the reasoning why Thundering feels bad; I know it adds more damage, but it’s just percent based and it isn’t particularly noticeable when I have it and when I don’t in the sense that my rotation is the same with thundering as without.
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I would like the slice and dice spell to be removed and rogue passive attack speed and passive energy regen increased by the amount it used to provide, permanently.
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Just play outlaw they can stack slice and dice up to 4-5 minutes in a raid setting and just worry about prioritizing their attack rotation which is very satisfying
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i’d go even further and remove a lot of the ramp up abilities and replace them with passive ramp up instead
its just pure bloat that could be designed into class kits through passives
removing the wasted gcd’s on ramp buttons would also make classes that require lots of ramp feel a lot better to play since they dont have to waste gcd’s on ramp to only find mobs are already dead
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because “buttons” and “complexity”!
Some people are into that.
Yeah, it’s super annoying.
I don’t use S&D on my rogue (I know, bad rogue, don’t intend on doing group content so I can accept being bad, lol) and the reason was I have enough frigging buttons to press as it is without worrying about having to keep so many buffs/debuffs up at all times. I don’t use addons because it frustrates me to use anything but default UI (although edit mode is a godsend so I can replicate the OLD default UI).
The more passives I can get to reduce my flubbing, fat-fingering as I try to make some sense of playing, the better.
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I do find it odd that they brought this ability back. It doesn’t really add much of anything to the spec, just a random button you press to maintain every so often.
It isn’t hard to keep up, it isn’t difficult to decide if you should S&D on trash or just send it because they’ll die insta. It’s just there… for really no reason. I’m not sure why it was added back in as it doesn’t really add anything to any spec in terms of fun or usefulness.
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I really really hate slice and dice - last expansion I just didn’t use it but this expansion it seem almost required.
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Kind of like the healing talent connected to the ability
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They got rid of Feral having to maintain roar, which was basically the cat version of this.
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I mean, what else are we supposed to use those combo points on? MORE damage? Now that’s just silly.
that sounds fun an convenient.
they probably dont like that lol
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You want my icyveins instead? you can have it!
Do you people want the game to play itself? Do you not want to be rewarded for playing well? Do you want your rogue to automatically Eviscerate/Envenom at 5-7 CP for you too? Why even bother playing at all if 1 button every 30 seconds is too much?
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