Renzik SPOILER

Ok man that hurts. I accidentally spoiled my self because I got lost in the ringing deep questline involving him and google search ended up leading me to an article about the next patch(oops).

Anyway, he was always a relatively interesting character considering he was a goblin aligned with the Alliance and honestly not on my bingo card of possible Alliance characters to die this expansion. One more reason to make sure Gallawix doesn’t excape this expansion alive.

Remember Renzik!

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I saw that article, Renzik sacrificed himself to save Gazlowe’s life.

Salute Rest in peace, Renzik your sacrifice will not be forgotten.

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Isn’t he the goblin that sat in the SI:7 building for the last 19 yrs?

Has he actually done anything in game besides the Undermine(d) patch?

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Lore-wise he’s been an insurgent and spy amongst the Horde on several occasions, gaining intel as a perfectly blended-in candidate amongst the crowds of their held territories.

The books did him justice too, where they had him trying to spy in Orgrimmar yet kept passively going to check his wares (He had a set-up shop as a cover) with him indicating it as a natural affinity that quite some goblins had; to take care & be wary of their business :joy: It was a good indication to establish that despite being ‘Alliance’ he was still a goblin at heart :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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What books was he in? Because I never seen anyone talk about him alliance side. Or his lore for that matter.

Before the Storm’ I believe :thinking:

Renzik witnessed the ‘fight’ between Saurfang and Sylvanas, which was staged — in order to reinforce their ploy into tricking the Alliance their motive & direction of attack, to which they then instead attacked Teldrassil.

Renzik sometimes grew tired of being the boots-on-the-ground member of SI:7 in Orgrimmar. He understood the reasons.

Practically every other member of the organization belonged to an easily recognizable Alliance race, which meant that eighty percent of the time, they had to remain unseen. The other twenty percent of the time, they had to rely on magic or truly superb disguises. Obviously, their opportunities for going undercover were limited.

Renzik was second-in-command, and he was a goblin. That was why Mathias Shaw repeatedly assured him he was trusted above all others to get the real story deep inside Horde territory. That was all fine and good and flattering, but it did get a little old. He was a spy and a rogue, and truth be told, he cared very little for interacting with others. But the pay was good, and he was one of probably only a handful of goblins who could honestly say they were highly respected. It didn’t hurt that he despised what the goblins had become under the leadership, if one could even use that word, of Trade Prince Jastor Gallywix.

Besides, he had the tiniest of soft spots for the Alliance way of looking at things—which he would admit to no one, lest he tarnish his hard-won reputation.

For obvious reasons he was my favorite goblin. Also, interestingly he is technically the highest ranking Alliance character to die this expansion considering he is effectively second in command in SI:7 and he clearly dislikes Gallawix.

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He was part of Anduin’s dumb spy mission in Orgrimmar and the one that brought back the faulty information about the Horde moving to Silithus at the start of BfA. So nothing of value was lost.

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To be fair, it was staged disinformation by Sylvanas & Saurfang to delibrately deceive the Alliance spies – so when Renzik simply reported what he saw, the Alliance then came to their own conclusions & spread misinformation on what their intentions were to be.

Renzik accomplished and successfully did what he was there to do – Report what he saw.
Sadly, the Alliance were a bunch of sillies and rushed to conclusion on such information and … well, the Night Elves paid for it. :grimacing:

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You know people are allowed to make mistakes. Sometimes you get outsmarted, having said that Renzik was the one leading most of the intel for the Garrison commander and lorewise he has provided valuable intel for the Alliance over the years, not the least of which is the lay out of Undercity. Heck, even in his last mission there he was able to steal intel.

“Rushed” is wrong, the Alliance made a decision(based on the info they had, and had Sylvanas gotten what was at the time the only know Azerite source in the world could have spelled doom), it failed and they got outsmarted. Yes, sometimes the bad guys win, doesn’t mean you are suppose to give up and considering Sylvanas is now paying for her crimes ultimately, the Alliance won and she and the Horde lost.

What I meant was, that Renzik made no mistake and the Alliance are the ones who acted on the information that was provided :slight_smile:

‘Rushed’ – Perhaps isn’t the best word, but they still nonetheless acted rashly on the info that was provided … Needless to say however, if their conclusion was correct – Their course of action would had been the right move to make.

In correlation to what conclusion they came towards, swift action is what would had been required in such a situation; so it’s understandable.

Ultimately however, Renzik was hardly to blame – Matthias Shaw even defends him, when Greymane scoffs about Renzik and questions his loyalty as to being a goblin.

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I had to check but this isn’t correct. Genn was angry at all of Shaw’s spies and not Renzik in particular, he was never even mentioned.

Genn smacked a fist into his hand, breaking the stunned stillness. His face was flushed, his eyes bright with fury.

“Sylvanas tricked us! Shaw’s so-called spies—”

“Reported what they saw,” Anduin said, heavily, his own guilt clawing at him. “That’s what spies do. We cannot blame them. Both Saurfang and Sylvanas are brilliant tacticians and old hands at war.” He took a deep breath. “The failure is mine.

I should have known the Horde would make a move the instant they saw an opening.”

“Older heads than yours did not expect this,” Velen reassured him. Despite his comfortin

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This isn’t a case of outsmarted. This is a case of people just being unbelievably stupid. Anduin being stupid, sure, he shouldn’t have been in charge anyway. A seasoned spy like Renzik being stupid? No, inexcusable.

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lol why would he ever?!

Renzik was loyal to the goblin people and had a hate of Gallawix. I assume he thought Gazlowe might have been the best shot to take him down.

Dude literally the entire Alliance followed his lead because at the end of the day the Alliance was in a rock and hard place. Had Sylvanas not gone to Ashenvale she could have waltz to Silithus, take the Azerite and potentially just overwhelm the Alliance with Azerite based weapons before it popped up all over the world.

Sorry, I COMPLETELY misread that. I thought you typed Gallywix. Dumb me. That makes way more sense to save gazlowe.

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Maybe Blizzard shouldnt have made the both goblin leaders have G as the start of their name. Honestly, if not for HotS Boss Mida should have been it.

Oh, sorry, you’re right. Flooding Orgrimmar with spies with the expressed purpose being Sylvanas finding those spies so she knows she is being spied on, getting many spies killed in the process, and then trusting the first bit of information brought back is a genius level 3d chess move. Poor little Anduin just got outsmarted because Sylvanas is a master of 4d chess.

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You mean the info even Tyrande, Genn and the rest considered credible? Like, Anduin was not the only one fooled by the entire act.

It was a clever tactic, especially since the spies kept their daggers sheathed. Killing Horde would have sparked anger and brought the two factions closer to war, but just watching the Horde, evading capture, and successfully doing so for weeks on end . . .

Even the dumbest peon understood the message: You cannot go to war. We know every move you make, and we will be ready.

Sylvanas Windrunner hadn’t taken the bait. If the warchief had unleashed her best spy hunters upon Orgrimmar—in the numbers she would have needed to root out the Alliance spies—many lives would have been lost, and not in a manner she could use to her benefit. So, she had done nothing.

Saurfang himself comments that it was a clever tactic and from the looks of it no Alliance spy was actually killed.

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Yes, many characters were made to hold the idiot ball to prop up Anduin.

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