20 years later and people still claim Horde has BG advantage. LOL.
See you at the bridge.
Paladin’s spinning flags in AB?
Tell me you are bad at PvP without telling me you are bad at PvP.
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Bro is forgetting the ibgy chockepoint, the cave starting point for horde closer to vann.
Ab has a faster path to BS and lm. And easier to hold farm / bs / lm as horde than it is for alliance.
Wsg has unpatched jump spot up to horde GY from the left.
Tell me you dont know pvp without telling me you dont know pvp.
LOL!!! Talks as if the same jumps are not available on the opposing side.
Source that it’s “easier to hold”. Sounds like you got slapped and blamed it on your superior faction failing.
Dude never obtained Rank 14 in the original system. You have no ground to speak.
Lets get stormrend happening for alliance as a horde player just trying to help my brothers
Horde have a massive advantage in AV…
Do you not understand ibgy?
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He thinks just because he afkd in bgs alot he understands the game.
the whole reason rend buff exists is because of the raiding crutches that were given to alliance back in vanilla with paladins that horde did not have. The raid progression in vanilla was always easier for alliance because paladin far exceeded shaman as a support role.
So what you are asking is for far too much. You should be more focused around stopping alliance from getting the buff at all instead of wanting it faction wide.
Tell me, how does alliance get to LM quicker than horde from BS?
Not sure how any person, forget what faction you play can see ibgy and think it’s fair??
Ally soft cap ibgy.
Horde soft cap shgy.
Ally literally now rez at spgy, which is 2 minutes away and only rez up to 10 at a time now, they aren’t ever making it back to ibgy to defend.
Meanwhile horde send 20 to back cap it and they now rez 25 seconds away and up to 20 at a time cuz cave graveyard.
Who does he think will out reinforce ibgy lmao?
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Ok, can we look at changing the inherent advantages horde have in bg maps if we are looking at making things even?
Other players because he is afk in a tower getting rank 14 
Do you understand Ally towers vs Horde towers? Bridge?
Lets all act like THE CHANGE YOU ARE ASKING FOR ONLY IMPACTS BGS
You are literally asking for buffs to the most the most over powered faction in MMO gaming history. The power discrepancy is not to be debated.
I literally created the AV premade Discord for the Horde and ran it for years helping push hundreds of Horde to Rank 14. You know nothing.
20 years later and people still don’t understand they are playing on the baby faction.
3 dispels.
Superior mp5
Capable of spinning flags alone vs 15 players for over 30 seconds.
The only buff in the game that scales with gear.
Highest effective HP.
No GCD and mana usage for buffs mid fight.
Highest effective healer mana pool.
Fear Ward for horrible tanks who can’t stance dance.
Weapon skills for the best weapon type in the game.
Get to use their glove slot unlike Horde tanks.
Just shut your mouth if you don’t know what you are talking about.
Alliance children 20 years later STILL crying for buffs. Absolutely god damn pathetic.
Hahaha this is a grown man angry at a faction. People this far on the spectrum really shouldnt get a voice on the forums.
Every single good player in the game knows horde have map advantages in classic. Need evidence?
They literally moved the cave more south in future expansions.
How braindead can 1 player be
lol no advantage in AV is bigger than the one that allows alliance to jump the horde fence and bypass the entrance. That bottleneck horde has to funnel through with the bridge and given the smaller size of the base where the archers can hit you from literally anywhere inside the base is a far bigger imbalance. The alliance base defends itself without even having a single alliance player in it
I’m not asking for changes rofl, I’m pointing out why horde had a 95% win rate in av in classic
The bridge is literally a meme.
You don’t win on defense.
Us stoping you at bridge isn’t winning us the game.
Alliance literally can’t even take their first objective because you rez twice as many players 25 seconds away lmao, meanwhile we rez half as many people 2 minutes away.
How can any unbiased player see this and say it’s equal?
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Like blizzard literally moved the cave south.
This guy has lived on classic too long. Time for some grass
lol what are you talking about horde have never had the bigger win rate of AV in vanilla… ever lol… never ever
The biggest change in TBC was the fact they made it so you CANT REZ in your cave graveyard untill you controlled NO other graveyards.
This was what made the difference.
Because in vanilla and classic horde rez 2x as many people to our reinforce ibgy of ally soft cap it and they are 25 seconds away
Meanwhile alliance now rez at spgy and only 10 at a time.
They had it in classic…
There was 40 threads about it.
A 9,000 post thread on classic forums and 100 YouTube videos about it
Do you live under a rock?
Yeah this happened aswell, and still wasnt enough. So they moved the cave to horde base just like alliances.
Maybe in wotlk?
But no, alliance have the map advantages. Thats some low iq thinking going on by necro