And to that I say deal with it. Hunters as a whole are 20 years late needing an update. And now they are finally sticking with a fantasy and changing a spec for it.
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We are dealing with it by telling them no. It’s a terrible change. They need to do better.
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They’ve attempted this twice before, it went live, got massive backlash from the actual playerbase and not the forum warriors, and they backpeddled on it. We’ll see what happens when it goes live and if it actually sticks around, or if the actual playerbase, and not the forums, tell them to get bent and the numbers drop like they did the previous two times.
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Don’t you just love the arrogant dismissive quality of too many posters? It’s so refreshing.
s/c
The most frustrating part so far is 0 communication, it’s reading alot like when they removed ranged survival.
They don’t care about what players want, “we know best, we can never be wrong” mentality with the devs is returning
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They basically just threw a grenade then ran out the door for the holidays.
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Retail is not and RPG. Just accept it and play classic or just move on bro
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The removal of pets for MM, reinforces the rpg, game play and what makes MM differ from BM and surv. It has been needed for 20 years! It is one of the most prominent aspects of MM, its the flavor that seperates it and makes it unique, just like surv has its specific traits.
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Warlocks sitting here wishing for even 1 new pet forever…
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i think its good. you know…
beast-master ->rely on pets
MM → rely on gun/bow
i’ll play BM if i wanna be about pets.
it’s great. no more breaking lonewolf just to lust lol
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Sir, no in every way possible. Marksmanship has moved to be without ANY pet but the eagle is a cool way to keep the Hunter part in MM alove while letting MM play the way it was meant to be. Right now MM is just BM without the pet and you fire 3 skills on and off in a dps rotation and thats it. MM deserves an ACTUAL class fantasy overhaul like BM and Survival got MULTIPLE times. From BOTH a hunter standpoint and a balance standpoint, the eagle is both class fantasy and enables the Marksmanship part of tbe fsntasy through the idea of magic vision through an eagle. If there was EVER a pet for MM that made sense, an Eagle is definitely it.
Also, Lone Wolf is NOT a suotable answer for MM players when Survival got multiple talent reworks and so did every other class to DIVE i to tbe class fantasy but you want us ti get a damage boost and that’s it? Heck no. Do better. Way better. We need to see real talents that actually matter instead of these 5% aimed shot damage here talents peppered throughout the tree. MM hunter hs maybe 2 entire talent nodes that interact with a pet that we actually would take and thats only because it benefits us without the pet as well and that is STILL not suitable.
Secondly, Lone Wolf doesnt solve the issue of when we have to summon a pet so we can take a DAMAGE LOSS just to use a utility, that NO OTHER class has to deal with. MM hunters wanting their special pet is a relic of old WoW that is long and far gone and anyone who is tied down to having a wolf or any animal outside of PvP is just mad that they’d have to paly one of the other 2 specs that ACTUALLY INTERACT with your pets. Marksmanship players, real MM players, should NOT have to be forced to play a half-baked class and spec to appease a bunch of people living in lala land. If anything, all of you that want to be able to pick a pet at all in MM is someone who hasnt played MM the way it was designed to be for YEARS now and holdong this change back is the same exact thing as blocking real RPG sort of change for MM hunters.
The eagle itself is the hunter part, the MM part uses the eagle to takw down targets from afar without signaling that the sniper is even in range. Instead of a player being your REAL SPOTTER, a bird who can do it for you is a more than suitable replacement that fits within the Hunter part of the class and the MM part of the spec. If yiu hold this change back, you never cared for MM to be an MM Hunter, you just wanted to keep your precious pet and keep aimed shot on the bar instead of going to BM and playing the way it was meant to be played and i’m tired of acting like it isn’t.
For every hunter or player that says “MM isnt for me when it doesn’t have a pet”, there are an equal, maybe more players saying “MM is a sniper and we dont even use the pets, just get rid of it and give me new things for the loss of the pet utilities”. And, lastly, this argument of “I shouldn’t have to suffer because of what you want” just remember that EVERY OTHER MM player has had to suffer while you got whatever it is that YOU wanted." If you insist on putting us on opposing sides of the fence, it’s time you lose and the real MM players get to have some fun for a change and get to play Marksmanship, the sharpshooter ranged class, without the hinderance of the pet system and finally with a fully realized class fantasy that we have deserved for FAR too long.
Lone Wolf is not, has not, and will not EVER be a suitable answer to the any of it.
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I think you missed the two other posts that are MM hunters begging for these changes to hit live so we can finally have a real class fantasy that fits within the archetype instead of stunted bm hunter from classic from 20 years ago. Mm is the bow/gun/crossbow class, not the pet class. Everyone else got specs that highlighted what they do. It’s time for MM to get what it’s due and this is a cool change that most of us want who participate in the game outside of just delves and world quests. Finally MM can be what it was meant to be
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Yes; Yes I am.
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The eagle is lame, and generic and doesn’t suit most of the races in the game. And it detracts from the fantasy of being a skilled sharpshooter. It’s not just you being adept with a bow anymore. Now it’s thank to a magic bird.
All they have to do is make bloodlust baseline, or even just tied to lone wolf. This nonsense with the eagle is unnecessary.
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Honestly i want my survival back which had range… i played that spec from vanilla until they went and killed it… forced into mm and now removing pet completely from it… you want pet removrd from mm fine … give back the survival ranged spec which was a shooter combo with traps and ill be ok … and for those going bm bm bm… a big F bm playstyle is totally different and you dont know what your talking about… i dont do much m+ or raids anymore so the dps issue was never a big problem… ffs just give lw lust and problem solved …
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Top 100 MM logs for every boss is lone wolf
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Ranged Survival Hunter was a mistake. Marksmanship Hunter already has everything that Ranged Survival Hunter offered. The melee Survival Hunter spec is unique and fun, so there’s no need to bring back Ranged Survival Hunter.
Surely this has nothing to do with forums in large, not specific to Blizzard, being an echo chamber of people complaining.
Rarely do we see people go out of their way to be positive in the grand scheme.
Logs will show what is most effective by default. Its why awful mechanics like rune of power existed and why momentum continues to exist.
That said if it was equal players would drop the hunter pet ai.
I think you misunderstood as did the other person, that when I say I am referring to the same 2 people over and over, I am referring to the two people who LIKE the change.
Vast Majority of people I see do not want a forced change.
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