sounds like a “git gud” variety of issue
why DOES retail even exist at all?
in principle, the only purpose it serves is keeping the worst elements of WoW fandom out of classic. and it’s not even doing a job at that.
What kills me is that in browsing the Devs’ Twitter feeds (because apparently having regulated feedback HERE where the worst trolls can be quickly squelched is too hard), I think I have a better idea of what they’re going for and I’m even more disappointed.
In response to someone suggesting a compromise with LFD such that we get access to it from 15-70, that way people don’t just go back to boosting… Brian Birmingham (WoW Classic Lead) trots out this response:
Thanks for the feedback!
We’re hoping to address “mage boosting” in other ways. Possibly some of the things we’ve done in Season of Mastery, such as limiting the XP you gain if the creature is trivial to anybody in your group.
Thoughts?
And given his comments elsewhere and then muting the thread and scurrying off, I honestly think that THEY THINK that if they just eliminate all the things people whine about, suddenly we’ll all just… enjoy grouping together to kill dwarfs in the Wetlands.
I don’t know what rose-tinted fairy tale garbage they’re huffing, but they clearly think the only reason people don’t level is because of these things, and not because leveling often sucks.
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Fun detected LMAO
We have determined RDF to be too fun
If 10% more people smile while changing spec we’re coming for that too
Let them wallow in their creation I’m done with it
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There’s a lot of hubris at blizzard that precludes admitting and correcting any mistake, they’ve been hemorrhaging subs in retail for years because of that but I didn’t realize it had infested classic as well.
#nochanges didn’t work well in vanilla classic. Minimal changes in TBC Classic didn’t have the results they wanted but somehow regressive changes to work more like vanilla/tbc will in wrath classic?
The only reason why classic has lasted so long, I now believe, is ONLY because Blizzard ignored us
They couldn’t even blue post the wrath classic announcement in the classic forums, its in retail general
SL failed so hard only 30 guilds have cleared mythic sepulcher, now they need money so they thought they would turn their attention to classic.
This is the result of their attention, its like attracting the eye of sauron
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removing LFD also has massive repercussions many of these anti LFDers don’t even realize.
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LFD allowed players to bypass the once a day limit on heroics. That means reputation farming and badge farming becomes much harder.
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LFD allowed players to dungeon as a source of reliable income since you could spend emblems on BOE items then sell them. That created a massive incentive to actually dungeon and kept queue times pretty reasonable.
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It made the low level dungeons actually relevant, and made dungeoning from 1-80 a fun and viable method to level. Having a set of heirlooms and dungeoning to 80 is one of the best experiences you could have as a leveler. The best part is that you had the choice to quest on top of your dungeon queue, so you could bang out some quests, get a dungeon, zone back in and keep questing.
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It allowed casuals to keep gear parity with the hardcore since there was no limit on how many heroics you could do. You could simply just do heroics until you didn’t want to, collect the emblems, and buy gear. If you needed some gear to get into a guild or a pug, heroic farming is where you got your foot in the door, and the thing that made heroic farming viable and painless was LFD.
It needs to be in the game. WOTLK is not the same without it.
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THIS!!!
There is no more community outside guilds in WoW anymore.
WOTLK will bring gear score so will be harder for non-meta classes and casuals lol
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Personally it’s a deal breaker for me, I’m an altaholic that loves leveling and the classic style combat/trees. I dealt with not having Dungeon Finder in classic and tbc classic as a healer trying to find groups when all I saw was mage boosting. It was aggravating and was enough to make me unsub. Wrath was going to bring me back but with Dungeon Finder being removed, not anymore.
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I enjoyed LFD, They should leave the version unedited, as it was in 2008/2009.
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That’ll be like 10 months into Wrath Classic. ICC probably already out by then.
But I don’t think they’ll ever put in the Wrath dungeon finder. Maybe because it’s too much work. Maybe because of their egos. They have no problem driving players from the game due to their stubbornness. Retail has taught us that.
They’ll make some abomination of an lfg tool that ‘maintains the Classic spirit’ that everyone will hate and won’t do a thing about the bots, boosters, and gdkp that have ruined TBCC.
If I’m not mistaken and have read their comment correctly, they might mean THIS July, not NEXT July.
I think it’s the wrong decision to “leave out” LFD from Wrath Classic, and I don’t think they are doing it for ANY actual players. I think Blizzard employees like selling carries and gatekeeping everything they do. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is because they will be selling tokens for Wrath. Then, it will all make sense.
Does anyone know if we will be able to queue up for battlegrounds outside of major cities? If not, I don’t think Wrath Classic will be very fun.
I plan to play it, but I’m really disappointed by them acting like players don’t want LFD. And, just because I try it out doesn’t mean I’ll be sticking around.
They say “we listened to the players,” but I don’t believe it. They have ulterior motives for leaving it out and it’s not for players.
RDF sucks, the real issue is the abominable realm population and faction imbalances. That’s what’s out of control and causing havoc.
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