Remove timers from M+

[Foxxsy-area-52]

You can run your own keys, or run them with your guild or from a community. Mongo stacking is only a problem with pugs.

[Ardus-thrall]

And running high keys with pugs is abysmal 99% of the time.

[Revkek-misha]

How is 10m between pulls to lust every pull more impressive then being able to clear a dungeon efficiently while simultaneously dealing with extremely powerful enemies?

[Yourxpally-illidan]

You have a point. There are classes and specs I straight up will never take to higher keys. They just suck so bad and blizzard can’t fix it.

[Denona-khazgoroth (Denona)]

@Vandal-chogall

I certainly don’t remember this back in wrath.

Well you must have a poor memory. As I mentioned as well, the “GOGOGOGOGO player” meme started to appear during Wrath (thanks to WoWcrendor).

[Pyri-shadowsong]

@Grumar-bloodhoof

A M+25 done in 4 hours will always be infinitely more impressive than a +15 done in even 10mins.

that is incorrect

nobody cares that you can clear a dungeon by waiting for lust to be off cd for every pull. that’s not impressive.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Grumar-bloodhoof

Ever since blizzard gave up trying to make pvp thier esport of wow, which funny enough is right when m+ was introduced, they felt need to add timer to dungeons which literally only exist in a poor attempt to make wows pve content into an esport. Gotta have those leader boards and invitational after all. Who ever thought speed running had any place in any mmos pve content let alone wow’s is actually crazy. A M+25 done in 4 hours will always be infinitely more impressive than a +15 done in even 10mins. One is actual difficulty and the other is stacking over geared aoe classes.

Blizz added a timer to dungeons 2 expansions before mythic+.

[Lawandudder-arygos]

Indeed. Wrath heroics were meant to be steamrolled. Everyone got the prot-pally AoE threat treatment. Tank threat and survivability was through the roof. Healing was easymode. DPS was bonkers AoE cleave. The whole expansion was meant to be cleaved down. People lamented that Wrath was too easy by design after the first month and everyone was swimming in badge and Naxx gear.

Then, Cata came out and slowed people down, but by that point - the damage was done. People had become used to the AoE fest and the faceroll specs. They demanded it back and we haven’t looked back since.

[Pyri-shadowsong]

@Argorwal-ysera

Blizz added a timer to dungeons 2 expansions before mythic+.

challenge modes in MoP were awesome. i can’t imagine how awful the complaints would be if they introduced that again today.

limited time special transmog? that’s not fair to people who can only play 17 seconds per month!

teleports to dungeon entrances? that’s p2w because some people might buy CM carries with gold which can be purchased with real money!

custom title for realm-best times? that’s unfair to those of us who are legally obligated to run all content in pugs!