Remove the timegate on the catalyst

Mythic raiding has a weekly lockout and the large majority of guilds are not clearing or getting far for weeks. The most rewarding content by far is M+ and that’s not up for debate.

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For my guild it was the introduction of raid lockouts that opened up raiding to more people. But since Flex, excluding people from raids was self-harming. Giving as many players the opportunity to gear up meant you still had enough people available when others couldn’t raid.

Mythic raiding is not the most rewarding content.

M+ absolutely is.

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ok so then separate raid gear from mythic plus.

make all raid gear scale down 100 ilvl when you enter a mythic plus dungeon.

then take away all tier from mythic plus players - would be fine because no one has tier and thus it is an even playing field.

As someone who uses M+ to boost my raid gear I have to agree with this. The fact you can use the catalyst to convert M+ gear to tier makes it invaluable. Plus it often has the best trinkets.

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mythic plus only drops hero track gear for end of dungeon - you only get one chance at a myth track piece of gear per week via the great vault which may not give you anything useful whatsoever.

mythic raid drops four pieces of myth track gear every boss.

Assuming you’re good at mythic, it still his the most rewarding, m+ is only 1 maybe good item per week

For your avg player though m+ is definitely more rewarding

You’re wrong though.

You can even get 610 gear based on limitless RNG in delves that’s only 3 item levels lower than what M+10 drops.

Mythic track gear is what is most important and M+ players can only get one item a week because their best gear is also on a weekly lockout and you only get one item a week.

Further, since this thread is about set bonuses, raiders could get endless access to warbound set tokens one difficulty lower than the raid they were doing.

To balance this they need to add warbound set tokens to both delves and 5 mans in corresponding content that rewards similar item level gear.

Oh, and because of warbound gear drops, raiders can actually get limitless gear currently just like M+ so you’re just factually entirely and completely wrong.

No, m+ drops the highest gear you can get from the vault. Thats not debateable.

At the end of a patch everyone is wearing m+ gear, not mythic raid gear.

The m+ vault gear and the mythic gear are the same track…

no, mythic raid drops the highest ilvl of gear… four pieces of myth track gear for each boss

mythic plus only drops hero track gear.

you get one chance at a myth track piece of gear per week in the vault for mythic plus.

mythic raiding is FAR too rewarding.

Yes, which means its easier to get.

It is far easier to coordinate 5 ppl vs 20.

Wouldn’t say it’s too rewarding, it’s also extremely time consuming and difficult

Isn’t delve gear enough for you? Want mythic set from doing world quest while at it op?

not correct.

100%

It takes more effort hence why the rewards should be better.

well then i guess you don’t need a full set of raiding tier gear

how does it take more effort?

Crazy id need to explain that in any way. Its simple logic.

really? or is this actually from the exploit that got people banned…

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