Remove the Questing Addons

[Sabetha-turalyon (Sabetha)]

While WoWhead will certainly detract from the experience, it still requires some reading and understanding of the world so you can at least understand where you’re going and what you’re doing.

Also just because you’re an outlier and your memory is 100% perfect doesn’t mean everyone else has perfect memory.

And even if everyone did have a photographic memory that’s still better than quest addons because you still have to use your brain a tiny bit!

How does it take reading and understanding of the world to type in the quest name and be given a map showing you exactly where the thing is?

My point is about your argument that not having a quest helper means needing to explore, get lost, etc.

Which simply isn’t true given the many avenues to simply find the information otherwise, or to have already had it because this is a 15 year old game.

You mean… Quest addons encouraged lazy writing from developers since no one cared about the quests anyway? Only the exp rewarded FROM them? gasp
Maybe it’s best for the longevity of Classic that such things are kept out of the game. Similar to how DBM has encouraged the development of fights that rely on the addon rather than vocal callouts by a raid lead. gasp

Based on the forums over the years I’d say it’s more because people feel like fighting mobs in the world became brain dead easy, so they just stopped caring.

Or if it’s because people simply never cared about quests then all they need do today is spam accept quest and type in the name on WoWhead.

Online database sites are a lot more used and accurate these days than in 2004.

[Patchs-proudmoore (Patchs)]

nope kills social interaction when you don’t have to talk to others to figure out where quest items are and so forth

But the people who would use a questing addon would then just tab-out and google. It takes a couple seconds but the endpoint is the same.

We can’t recapture that lack of knowledge again.

[Scalebane-cenarion-circle]

the mod will still be around, enjoy the partial win lol

[Silvanthra-doomhammer (Silvanthra)]

Or you could well, I don’t know…read the quest text?

[Diconius-blackrock (Dîconius)]

Flag as spam and move on.

“I disagree with this individual’s post, I shall abuse the overly simplified report system to oppress them in order to feel superior.”

K.

[Renim-vashj]

Questing add-ons do, in fact, negatively impact the community.

During Vanilla, many players would ask for directions in General. People would group with you at the location and help you figure out where to go.

It helped people build reputation for being reliable and nice.

Questing add-ons remove the chance for players to be helpful to one another.

Did you play classic? Maybe it’s because I played on Illidan but it typically went something like “Look it up, idiot” or “check thottbot” or “idk”

I played Vanilla. Thottbot only existed for half of WoW’s existence, and it was forum comments.

Carbonite and other quest helping mods did not arrive until near the beginning of BC.

[Grimey-proudmoore]

It depends on just how much the addon is doing, but quest helper was an addon during actual Vanilla.

“durr this isnt an argument”

oh great we’re back in a circle again, looks like we’ll just have to make enough of a stink that Blizzard complies

[Scalebane-cenarion-circle]

ssssooooccciiiiaaaaallllll iiiiinnnnntttteeeerrraaaccctttiiiiooooonnnn, #spiritofclassiclulw

[Slayt-the-venture-co (Slayt)]

Would you expect anything less from someone who is seething with rage at the idea of not having their WoW GPS?

[Scalebane-cenarion-circle]

funny story i had a friend who would yell at me to read my F****** quests, i would get lost all the time haha.

[Diconius-blackrock (Dîconius)]

Explains why you play a 2 button class

[Sourkane-ravencrest]

classic lets see
A true to form restart---- every 45 minutes the servers will crash

[Slayt-the-venture-co (Slayt)]

Ok at this point you’re being obtuse because you really don’t have an argument and really don’t want your hand holding addons to go away. Looking at a map and figuring out how to read that map and get your self to that point on said map while not hard is still much more engaging and requires more interaction that just mindlessly following a GPS.

Yes, we cannot 100 percent recreate the Vanilla experience, but we can do our best to try.

[Åmpeg-dalvengyr]

I can see the salt pouring out of your mouth when you speak. It’s glorious.

[Renim-vashj]

I, for one, am ashamed at all of my WoW Classic veterans fighting for Questing Addons.

It is essential that we preserve the most Vanilla experience of players having to read or go to third party websites to capture what made Vanilla so special, community.

Questing add-ons did not exist for most of WoW Vanilla’s existence. After automated quest tracking was added by Blizzard, it harmed the community greatly each time a new expansion was released.

No longer did players reach out to each other. They just followed a straight line to where it told them to go.

Nothing is more retail than quest helper add-ons.

#RemoveQuestingAddons

No longer

[Xcentrick-area-52]

These were not around during most of Vanilla’s lifetime, and emerged on later patches.

actually this is false. i remember about a week after i hit 60 there were questing addons already. *note i hit 60 in about 2 and a half months after live hit so we can round the time it took me to hit 60 and a week after to 3 months after live hit.

whereas call to arms the “lfg” addon that was in vanllia was only in from 1.11 onwards.

at least if youre gonna make a comparison do it with actual things that are similar.

also your previous statement that questing addons “automate” questing is false as well but im sure you knew that.

[Sthelyane-stormrage]

“durr this isnt an argument”

yes it is because it was in vanilla as were many other quest helping addons…

[Dovahsah-illidan (Dovahsah)]

I guess this means we need to remove SellValue too

[Patchs-proudmoore (Patchs)]

No longer did players reach out to each other. They just followed a straight line to where it told them to go.

Literally what will be the difference. All this information exists, easily accessible online.

[Moknåe-arathor]

They show you but don’t automate your character to perform the quests.

I dislike the quest add-ons and will not be touching them. I’m just saying Blizzard doesn’t want automation and quest add-ons are not automation.