School of Hard Knocks should be removed from the Children’s Week meta achievement, even in Classic.
This achievement was removed from the Children’s Week meta in retail this year, after over a decade of asking for it’s removal. It should be removed for classic too.
Source: It's That Time of the Year Again: Remove School of Hard Knocks from Children's Week Meta Achievement - #54 by Linxy
Nobody except a minor few enjoyed having to do these PVP tasks for the meta, and it blocked many people from obtaining the Violet Proto-Drake and Matron/Patron title.
As a refresher, this is what the achievement requires:
- Assault a flag in Arathi Basin with your Orphan.
- Capture the flag in Eye of the Storm with your Orphan.
- Return a fallen flag in Warsong Gulch with your Orphan.
- Assault a tower in Alterac Valley with your Orphan.
Obviously these objectives would always be heavily contested and if you were not good at PVP or a stealth class, it was really hard to complete. Didn’t make it much better that the Orphan loved to despawn at random times, so even if you could get to the objective, your Orphan might’ve bailed on you and you wouldn’t get credit still.
I think it would be a big mistake if School of Hard knocks remained part of the Meta for WOTLK. It is far more annoying/hard than the other holiday PVP achievements, which just require 50 HK’s with a specific item/appearance, and by far the hardest holiday achievement in general.
So let’s start this discussion early so by the time Children’s Week rolls around, we won’t have to worry about this roadblock.
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Agreed replace the orphan with fruit imo
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Agreed, it was removed on retail because those requirements are super RNG and a huge hassle to do, it should be the same in Classic.
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If you want an achievement, try achieving.
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here we go…
slippery slope of twitter sjw trying to cancel and modify everything to their liking because it doesn’t include every singular human on earth
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As a PvP player we can say many of us don’t enjoy the PvE task. Yet we put up with them. Perhaps you should stop trying to eliminate one side of the game?
Also this.
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Same as to what the other dude said, If you like achieves try achieving.
Things feel rewarding and rare when things are hard to obtain, even if that means RNG.
You take that out of the equation, the rewards feel like sht.
None of those are RNG.
Go play retail if you want relaxed achievements.
Dragon pre-patch launches tomorrow.
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I would agree only because it goes against the the competitive nature of PvP. S/B win each BG with your orphan or something.
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I think a better version of this achiev if prefered to not remove entirely, would be to just bring it in line with every other holiday pvp achiev.
50 HK’s with your Orphan out.
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I love that his complaint is that the “school of hard knocks” is too hard.
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This has to be a troll. Those are the four easiest things you can do in a bg. I think i could get this achieve semi-afk.
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tell that to the sinister squashling pet. ive done my trick or treating every waking hour, done the daily city defense quest to put the fires out, and done daily 5x HH runs and have yet to get the pet. it’s the last thing i need for the Hallow’s End title, this is not rewarding because i’m having to wait on RNG, its insufferable. it’s going to really suck when this week goes by and i fail to get my achievements because i got bad luck on my loot boxes.
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the only real stupid one is returning the flag, I’m a caster I am almost never in range to even be near that flag. I’ll have to go out of my way to find a premade just for this stupid achievement
the rest are easily doable in a couple attempts
No,
Get better at pvp,
Dont be bad.
Seriously, all of those are insanely easy.
AB - Just take stables first. Easy.
EOTS - A joke
AV - Also very easy, just push offense.
The hardest one for sure is WSG, just camp the flag room wait for pick up, gank and spam click. Kind of a meme.
A lot of crying from people unwilling to put in any effort at all in the game.
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Pretty much this. Its asking you to cap a flag, not hit 1800
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I don’t think it’s a troll. I saw people complain about this for years on the general forums.
Ya, they are easy but some people get very intimidated to queue into a BG lol.