people used to say the same thing about running multibox programs which allowed them to cast the same spell on 8 different characters
Am I the only person who just dumps stuff on the ah every once in awhile and makes sure the price i offer the item up for is reasonable to me? Like if someone undercuts me, i’m like whatevs bruh, thats the market. Besides my stuff usually sells anyway.
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They still multibox and bot on top of it, they just walk around the piss poor anti-cheat.
There’s tens of thousands sitting in a discord for a “lua unlocker” for wow that has a freaking monthly subscription, just so they can bot.
look at the history.
Sorry, but I guess I’m ignorant… What is cancel scanning?
I dont think thats how it works. As far as I know, it is entirely market driven, as in the market on tokens. So the more people offering tokens for sale on the AH, the lower the price goes. The fewer, the more its worth. (I think that’s right…)
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- You park your bot character so it’s next to a mailbox and an auctioneer (the brutosaur makes this easy to do anywhere there’s a mailbox).
- Your bot is constantly scanning the AH looking for people posting new auctions that put their auction ahead of yours on the list.
- Your bot cancels your current auction to send the wares to the mailbox.
- Your bot opens the mail and gets the wares.
- Your bot puts the wares back on the AH at the same price as the other person, putting your auction back on top of the list.
This happens within seconds.
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You’re not right clicking each item in your bag, setting a price, then posting the auction. It’s not one to one and it should’ve been taken care of when they made the changes to Multiboxing and not allowing automation.
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Thanks for the explanation, and letting me know why/how that was happening a couple of weeks ago when I was posting stuff relevant to the MT. I agree with the OP, blizzard needs to break TSM
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i have guiltlessly crashed a market when i’m trying to get rid of maybe 100 of a trade good, and some bot keeps relisting and undercutting me w their 3400+ of the same mat. not trying to break into the market, just want this stuff out of my bags without having to take the vendor price hit.
and since it was a one and done for me, they just immediately go back to cornering the market at whatever price they like anyway.
Correct.
If more people could sell stuff it would likely drive the price up. The big auction house players will still buy as many tokens because most of them have 100s of millions already and you would add another group of players trying for those tokens which would increase the price. As well that second group of players could be the ones buying gold and putting tokens for sale on the auction house and them not doing that would also decrease supply - double whammy.
well their explanation is wrong because TSM isn’t botting. Botters may use TSM but I strongly suspect there are actually very few botters using that ah.
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It’s why Booty Bay always has dozens upon dozens of throwaway bnet account lvl 10 toons sitting there 24/7. They go there so they don’t need a bruto on a throwaway account to bot on.
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What it’d do is allow for the market to actually correct itself so the token prices would reflect the gold income of the average player. As the token has a real world money value, the basis for the in game market revolves around that value.
The automation of the AH allows a few people to control and artificially inflate that market pricing, while discouraging the average from participating. If that automation was broken, it’d allow more players into the market driving up competition on pricing.
I’m a goblin and honestly I think it’s time for TSM to be banned.
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No, I dont think we are understanding each other.
Players do not determine the buying or selling price of a Token. When they go to the screen to purchase a token from the game store or whatever, it is has a set amount of gold that it can earn you once you pay Blizzard. It goes onto the AH to give you that set amount of gold. I then go along and buy that token for that amount of gold, which goes back to the original person who provided it.
If players have millions of gold, why do they need to sell tokens for gold? Its people who WANT gold who buy the tokens to sell on the AH.
Wash out your mouth!
I’m not a gold farmer or an AH machine but I do work at making enough gold to pay my sub, and TSM is an absolute godsend. It saves me so much clicking and checking and going back and forth. People played the AH before TSM and would do it afterwards if it was gone. All it does for people like me is decrease the amount of time we have to sit in front of the AH screen.
PS: TSM also does other things - it allows me to do things like see what items I can craft that make me a profit taking into account the costs of materials and vendor items, and I can queue them up and make them when the profit margin is good. Its a very useful tool on many levels.
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lol, I was replying to you and the person you were replying to.
I know players don’t set the price - what made you think I didn’t know that?
I am not saying that group of people is selling tokens for gold.
I am saying if this happened - then more people would be buying tokens FROM the auction house to pay for things increasing demand for tokens. If that same group who currently can’t sell anything is buying gold from blizzard they are generating tokens and if they stop they would decrease supply of tokens and again drive up prices of tokens.
Yep break the uber goblin monopoly would benefit everyone because after a couple of weeks no one will be able to afford a 250k token. The token will settle at 100k because no one will be to afford the 250k token.
No one will buy Tokens for cash if all they get is 100K though. Also, the Token is north of 200K because less people are buying Gold from Blizz.