the “average 50” is lazy. if you’re not ilvl 100 at level 50 dont do bgs its really simple. plus im still wondering why you’re comparing a 50 and 59 since it’s a different bracket.thanks for playing.
buy greens off ah. make them. whatever has to happen just gear your alts clickers.
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I have ilvl 90 and have almost 14k heath. FYI even I poo poo on alt toons with 8k heath.
What a joke of a response. “the average 50 is lazy”. Level doesn’t determine how lazy a player is, no matter what you want to believe.
if you’re level 50 and get 2 shot because you dont gear your toon then run here to cry about something being broken… yes lazy.
lazy is using the random bg finder to level from 10-60 without gearing from the AH or pve. full sets of out leveled pvp garbage satchel drops you got while mooching xp from 10 up isn’t going to cut it. its not effort its complacent and its most of the playerbase.
does anyone who gears their alts have a problem with bgs? anyone? bueller?
“people don’t put in the same amount of effort I do they’re lazy”
If people are “lazy” for queing up at 10 with their heirlooms vs some joker at 60 with their covenant, you’re truly delusional
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an amout of effort equal to the level youre at sound reasonable? what was the average level 50 player during the squish /patch? raid geared players were 130. a casual player could easily get 115. the transition to shadowlands felt easy because you had gear.
is anyone pumping their alts up to that ilvl now when they ding 50? or your trash boosted 50 for that matter? seems weird its too hard now. shadowlands mobs didn’t get weaker because you dont think the effort is required.
gear your alts for pvp or get beat by those who have.
I said this in a previous post.
If your lower alt needs to twink their character out in their bracket to be competitive vs 60’s who are scaled down with their convenant in your bracket there is a problem.
If you’re trying to prove a point posting on your alt that you’ve bought 90% of the gear for at level 13 you’ve completely ignored the problem.
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an amout of effort equal to the level youre at sound reasonable? what was the average level 50 player during the squish /patch? raid geared players were 130. a casual player could easily get 115. the transition to shadowlands felt easy because you had gear.
is anyone pumping their alts up to that ilvl now when they ding 50? or your trash boosted 50 for that matter? seems weird its too hard now. shadowlands mobs didn’t get weaker because you dont think the effort is required.
gear your alts for pvp or get beat by those who have.
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As I said, if you have to twink your character out to be competitive vs scaled down 60s with covenants, there is a problem. You can ignore and it and go on with your ignorance ways because YOU enjoy abusing the system for your advantage, but the problem will still be there.
What I came from reading your responses, " I two shot people in bgs that have half the health I have, so that means I’m amazing and you’re lazy for not being as “good” as I am.
i made what im wearing on an alt i have thats a leather worker. uh oh, effort! look through my posts for one where i cry foul about anything pvp related. there arent any because i gear my toons for battle. its certainly not bis twinking while leveling, thats absurd, but a player has to be at least the average for their level. bare minimum. im sorry leveling bgs are too hard or that its not economical to purchase gear and enchant it FOR YOU. if you want to compete with the super scary syncd players with their super overpowered BoA equal template you should do something about it.
every level has a gear ceiling and every one of these complaints are from players in the basement.
Who says I’m having a problem? Are you capable of thinking about someone ELSE other than YOURSELF? Are you blind by your ego? For 1 post, think about someone that’s NOT yourself. Think about someone who is trying to enjoy this game who doesn’t have max alts and is trying to enjoy the pvp experience, maybe they rolled a character on a new server and don’t have the gold for expensive enchants and gear, instead their experience is ruined by others who need to abuse the system for their advantage. Are you really capable of thinking about someone else? I’m really curious.
your class is carrying you or the fights aren’t that hard maybe. that ilvl at 54 is a joke lol. you should advocate for better/faster gear drops in bgs instead of asking for a syncd template to get nerfed.
TEMPLATE
same as
BOA’s
a bis 10 will lose to a bis 19. extrapolate that in your calculations for literally every bracket. some of what’s happening is just level difference. some is premades. most of it is players wanting xp and the bg fight is second.
“its not rated”
“not worth the investment im going to outlevel it anyway”
“can i run the flag i need an achieve”
“ just want to try some stuff out”
if you’ve said any of thse things you deserve to lose.
The item level is a joke because it was a level 35 character last week. Why does that concern you so much? Do you understand there’s possible more to worry about in life? I battleground level, I’ve quested enough in my life to the point I understand you learn your character better pvping. I’ve seen enough of the bg experience this expansion to know it’s a s h I t show. The bg experience is important. I can certainly tell you right now I went into the 19 bracket once and that was all I needed to know to understand what was going on and why to avoid it. I probably twinked a character before you even started playing tbh, this is a different experience and it was not fun in any way, hunters have their whole toolkit at 19 but that is another story.
You have 1k posts on a 13 and most of them seem to be trolly, I should have known to be frank. Enjoy whatever you’re doing on these forums I suppose.
For some reason adding a new post edited my old one. These forums are neat. Anyway, here ya go Boomiealtposter_01.
Hope these numbers are more suitable for your anger.
Because there is way too much of a power gap in current 60 bg’s. You get people with 35khp mixed in with 20khp. In comparison, 60’s in lower lvl bracket is far more fair than the terrible mathmaking that exists at level 60. That’s why I queue, and why I will continue to que in lower level brackets until blizzard realizes this. I like to play alts. I don’t want to spend 3 weeks gearing just to do OK in level 60 bracket.
you forgot the basic azerite pieces and neck and cloak. the azerite has more hp/ main stat by alot. the 50 bracket must have been manageable now do it again for 51-59.
I literally proved the dude above wrong like 700 times in a single thread and he still out here saying people are lazy bruh.
ilvl doesn’t matter, even if said player became a productive member of society in your terminology they’d still lose because they don’t have access to your potency conduits and covenant ability you donkey.
Stop pretending every single day you’re not just defending this because killing people while you have a massive advantage gives you a hard on. PLEASE. It’s sad to watch you lie to yourself.
Every time I queue for pvp it’s only with level 60’s wtf are people complaining about?
60’s in sub 60 brackets? never seen it.
This guy is convinced somehow that players who want to do leveling bgs should stop their xp for weeks and grind content for hours every day until in bis gear, do a few bgs and level up, then do it all over again. The slowest possible leveling experience imaginable.
He’s a 14 druid with an ilvl of 12, hardly a good example of practicing what he preaches. Thank you Mr. Empty Gear Slots.
Seriously. These exploiters totally get off on cheating. The sexual tension of their fetish is palpable.
Azerite helmet (i60) on Balance druid has 40 stamina. Crafted ilvl 100 has 46. Source: Relinquished Azerite Cap (Quest Reward), Desolate Leather Helmet.
Are you saying that level 50 alts should stop and raid BFA content for i101+ Azerite gear? No fresh character, new player, or boosted alt has a 150+ cloak/neck. None would have i101+ Azerite gear, either. Only shelved BFA alts would.
Are you implying that people should have to stop at 50 and do dated/not relevant content for several months in order to compete in the sub-60 BG bracket simply because level 60’s are in it?
Surely not. Surely not your point/implication.
There’s a significant difference in slightly outgeared but still viable against people who have those shelved alts – when compared to a level 60 character in m15/conquest gear with epic conduits, soul binds, etc.
They could equip a full set of “cheap and cheerful” Green BOEs and have more Secondary stats + Main Stat (If desired) than 95% of the player base in any bracket. Exactly what you have done right? This is the way.
Party Sync Template is one thing to come up against as an under geared character with poor stat allocations/builds.
Clearly the enhanced leveler has an advantage here, Fat stats, Enchants, Gems, Trinkets, Procs out the wazoo.
Once Covenants get adjusted (Lets hope) Conduits Tuned/Requirements? Abilities etc… These outliers are what needs to be brought out in the open.