Remove 10% damage reduction from Titan's Grip

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well, you don’t listen to a completely logical argument - that commanding shout is currently at its most powerful at the algalon fight, so the only option is to convince you that you don’t know what ur talking about, and that is evidenced by your logs - you’ve never touched an algalon.

There’s nothing logical about your argument.

The fact remains that the only utility warriors provide (by all accounts I can find) is commanding shout. A buff that objectively loses value as the expansion progresses. You can argue it’s more impactful on Algalon than in Naxx but the fact remains if it is warriors’ only utility and has been losing its value since Naxx.

and I’m telling you it has not lost value since naxx, it has gained since ulduar came out, your argument is that commanding shout is better on heigan because on heigan it was a 13% hp buff and on algalon its only 10% lmao.

You’re sunder’s are extremely important, and you are also very buffy , warriors will be one of the most played class during ICC.

Show me an objective value measure that determines that. Because I see growing healthpools while commanding shout remains static.

I also never mentioned Heigan, you mentioned that.

I’ll refer you back to what you initially said: “in this thread i’ve had a guy say that commanding shout was at its most powerful in naxx, which is hilarious”

Commanding shout was at its most powerful in Naxx in accordance with the % by which the buff increases health relative to healthpools of players. You can argue that commanding shout remains relevant at Algalon and has a part to play, but that doesn’t diminish the fact it is objectively weaker than it was in Naxxramas.

If you want to make an argument for the buff being more impactful you should have done that at the time instead of just suggesting my opinion was hilarious.

You’ve done this to yourself, congratulations.

powerful, impactful? you see the bit where you are being semantic? you’ve got nothing

I mean I’d rather be semantic than make no case at all. Which is what you did.

I’ll copy and paste it since your reply was lazy-
" I’ll refer you back to what you initially said: “in this thread i’ve had a guy say that commanding shout was at its most powerful in naxx, which is hilarious”

Commanding shout was at its most powerful in Naxx in accordance with the % by which the buff increases health relative to healthpools of players. You can argue that commanding shout remains relevant at Algalon and has a part to play, but that doesn’t diminish the fact it is objectively weaker than it was in Naxxramas."

ok, ill give you an option, you tell me which you are choosing

10% hp for the entire raid on algalon
13% hp for the entire raid on loatheb

choose wisely

I don’t need to choose, you’re moving the goalposts.

Is commanding shout more or less powerful now than it was in Naxx?

“in this thread i’ve had a guy say that commanding shout was at its most powerful in naxx, which is hilarious”

You wrote that.

its more powerful now, it has no power at all in naxx, the numerical value is never used, it has an effective number of 0, i know you won’t choose because it will undermine your entire point, we all know and you are continuing to try to dance around it

Wrong, you have absolutely no objective measure to distinguish that.

People on the forum can see right through your non-argument.

It’ll buff for 2255 all expansion, regardless of the healthpool of players that receive it.

ok, you tell me the mechanic in naxx that will 1 shot you if you don’t have commanding, but won’t 1 shot you if you do

It’s irrelevant to the nature of the buff in relation to healthpools.

keep dancin snakey

Keep posting from a warrior alt. What’s your main, guessing a druid.

You suggested it was hilarious the idea it was its most powerful in Naxx. It was objectively most powerful in Naxx.

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my alt is better than your main is what ur sayin? damn you roasting yourself

His alt Warrior eats your main warrior for dinner.

You’d be begging for damage while he be on the top

Well as long as you admit you’re posting from an alt.

Commanding shout has been losing value since Naxx and warrants review to buffing warriors.

Also I can look at your gear in warcraftlogs you realise. So your extra gear doesn’t impress me. I’ve moved to 70th percentile from 5th as I geared up, I’m perfectly comfortable with my progress after playing 10-80 as prot.

I’ll take that over being unable to understand basic semantics.

Commanding shout will be fire for the whole expansion… don’t be delusional.
Bane of the lich king will def need it.