Remember that time in TBC for Paladins

When they said “We know it’s classic, but we’re changing this for balancing”

And they gave alliance and horde paladins their respective abilities. Remember that?

Well right now they could give Crusader Strike to Classic Paladins are change Exorcism to be used on any target and it would have the same affect. A minor balance tweak that would do no harm to the game. The hyper elitist crowd still has era where there’s zero changes. So we can afford some changes on the 5th release of the game.

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The worst change they ever made.

Imagine making Shackle Undead usable on anyone. Honestly.

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This is completely different.

This was during TBC, every class had changes, every talent tree had changes. Alliance were given Seal of Blood to be comparable to Horde, nothing more.

If you want worthwhile DPS play anything other than Ret Paladin.

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I think you are going to find that most people who n this forum think that paladins are a perfect class and there is nothing you can do to make them better.
I don’t necessarily agree with that statement, and I think your idea is fine.

Maybe even a libram that has the effect built in.
:man_shrugging:

Objectively false but okay

Easiest answer, if you want this version of paladin go play SOD.

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No spot changes here and there,
If they want changes just release TBC prepatch in its entirety.

Imo.

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If you want to play TBC paladin, wait for TBC. There are many vanilla paladin players who enjoy the class as is. Adding two extra attacks would dramatic change the class. It would do immense harm to PvP.

Classic Era does not have zero changes. Classic Era recieves changes all the time. because of stuff you guys ask for and it never gets fixed.

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Yes, I remember … and I also remember NOT liking it. I was a Paladin, a crusader of the Light, killing off undeads, ghouls and ghasts with my Exorcism. If they had added it to hurt Undead players too, I’d have found it fine. But every target? No, it was not fun. It harmed a part of my “Class feeling”.

Edit, and this change did not happen until Wrath - it’s not a BC change at all. I remember loving the extra damage in Zul’Drak, and suddenly it was not like that anymore.

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It would make sense if it was a Retribution talent, then you could make some argument that an offensive zealous paladin would see demons in everything.

Still, vanilla Paladin is perfect. One of the strongest defensive classes in the game and giving it more offensive kit would just turn it into a hero class.

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the Art of War talent should only proc when welding a two-handed weapon, or it needs a “cannot occur more than every 5 seconds” internal cooldown.

If anything they should give them righteous fury and a taunt. It is not even balance issue, it is a playability issue.

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I mean they already turned this into sod 2.0 so I don’t see why they wouldn’t just keep going

You’ll lose folks when you talk about bringing Crusader Strike in. Vanilla Ret doesn’t really need it tbh. Exorcism on any target would be fine though, because…

Of those two things you mention, one is a minor balance tweak, another is an entirely new ability added to the game.

I’m not #nochanges by any stretch but lets try to remember the version of the game we’re playing here, folks. It’s not TBC yet.

(Though I completely believe they should just release TBC now. I don’t want to have to play Vanilla again for a year when I’m already playing Vanilla.)

Oh no the terrible horrific reality of paladins getting a 15% damage increase and getting to press an extra button besides judgement. The horror!

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SoD is that way —>>

Has just what you’re looking for. Or wait for TBC Classic in a year.

Yeah lil bro the forum has been over this.

“MUH SOD” doesn’t work anymore! :smiley:

—> You’re era cesspool is over there

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Honestly I think 5 minute buffs extending to 30/60 minutes would be a bigger boon to Paladins than crusader strike and exo. Plus would have significantly less impact on game balance.

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It’s not horrific, it’s just a different game. One that I’m all for, by the way, I just don’t think it needs to get rammed into the Anniversary servers. There’s just no point when TBC is bringing it anyway. I know I’m certainly looking forward to the TBC Paladin changes.

If they wanna do Classic+ (heck yes, please) then that might be a good place to consider it.

I just don’t think that Paladins in this version need it, especially not if Exorcism can be used on any target. I’d much rather them enhance Ret mana sustain for long term fights so that I don’t go OoM pressing the few buttons I do have :wink:

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That would destroy PVP and make effectively no actual difference in raid.

TLDR wait for TBC, AND NO MORE CHANGES