Exactly, the first blue post acknowledges the issue without dual spec but dismisses it since it’s not affecting majority of players.
The second blue post (when it’s added) acknowledges the issue again and states it’s being added to address it.
Blizz essentially admitted they were wrong about dual spec and added it to improve the game.
And this is the kicker that makes Dual Spec, more so than a lot of other future improvements/changes, so appealing to add in TBCC: it addresses a specific set of complaints that emerged in the here and now, while detracting from nothing.
In a world with Devs that are open to changes in TBCC, Dual Spec logically fits as a suggestion that is popular, relevant, appropriate, and overall good for the game.
If anything, adding Dual Spec now rather than later means Blizzard makes an early amendment to its overall system that they weren’t able to when TBC was originally played.
TBC Classic should be looked at as an opportunity to look at what could have been in addition to what the game actually was back when it was first released.
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It’s irrelevant…you can call it whatever you like.
I’m paying $15 to experience all of their ideas during the original TBC. The wrong, and the right ones.
I love the wrong ideas present. It reminds me of the all the progress that’s been made. There’s a ton of things wrong with TBC and I’m here for it.
Blah, blah, blah.
Please refer to my carpet analogy, again, for a counter to this tired argument.
Just because wine has been spilled, doesn’t mean I want to get the whole carpet drenched in wine. I’m fine with a few stains.
A scuffed recreation of TBC is better than a complete non-TBC.
The very same person that you are using as gospel for your counter-argument has also made retro-active changes to his feelings about dual spec.
Ghostcrawler himself has said he wasn’t actually very sure about it’s addition, that he had “mixed feelings” about its benefits.
So unless you’re a mindreader, using dev-thought introspection to justify dual specs addition is going to take you nowhere.
No, that statement was only made to silence the faulty argument from people at the time who said it was a significant enough portion of people who “needed” it for that purpose. It was a counter-argument, not their justification for not adding it in TBC.
The real reason is, as follows, from the same post:
…and I agree with that. You can disagree with it all day long.
You didn’t make TBC. They did.
You are paying $15 to experience retail. It just so happens to come with TBCC which is not TBC.
Dual spec does not make this non-TBC, boosts, store mounts, and same faction BGs do.
Nethaera : What is dual speccing?
Ghostcrawler : Dual speccing is the ability to save two separate talent specs, glyphs, and action bars.
Nethaera : Why are we allowing players to dual spec after all this time?
Ghostcrawler : We really felt like this was a great way to increase the flexibility available to players and encourage them to take part in more aspects of the game. To use just one example, some players like to participate in both raids and Arenas, which is awesome behavior that we want to promote. But, there are some talents which are more useful in one part of the game than another. Currently, players have to pay respec costs and go through the process of setting up the desired talent spec and action bars whenever they switch.
The new system makes this a much more logical process, saving on time and cost and allowing players to easily move from one aspect of the game to another.
“The new system makes this a much more logical process, saving on time and cost and allowing players to easily move from one aspect of the game to another.”
Not to be too hair-splitty but we’re all paying $15 to experience… whatever it is Blizzard offers with their license. There’s no actual promise of what that’ll be.
Sorry but that’s not in the advertising.
However, “faithful recreation”, is in the advertising.
Your own personal opinion that I heavily disagree with, and until further notice or the event that dual spec does get added, Blizzard also inherently and passively disagrees with.
Also, just because they said this in WOTLK:
Does not mean it should be added to TBCC. There’s simply no logical connection between the those words and the actions you desire.
Yeah, they felt this way in WOTLK, so they added it. Good for you…so wait on WOTLK-C, if that ever comes.
Your “it wasn’t in TBC before” ship has sailed. It blows my mind that you think this position holds any weight this far into TBCC. It means nothing at this point. The devs realized that it was better for gameplay.
I can’t make it much simpler for you to understand.
Just because they made one change I don’t like, doesn’t mean I’m OK with them going ahead and making all the changes I don’t like.
I’d like to limit the amount of changes I wouldn’t like.
Luckily, how I feel about dual spec lines up with the objective reality of how TBC was, should be, and likely will be.
That’s an interesting perspective on why dual spec shouldn’t be added to the game. More available access to content really will just ruin the game.
Game is fine from where I’m standing. Sounds like you’re just doomsaying now.
If WoW is gonna die, its gonna be due to Blizzard’s actions outside of the actual game development, it will have nothing to do with whether they add dual spec or not.
Do you also play TBCC without addons that didn’t exist when TBC was first released?
Make sure none of your paladins use Seal of Blood.
Make sure you destroy your loot box if you win a BG as alliance.
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