The advantage that horde paladins had wasn’t huge compared to alliance, however, in terms of dmg competition (like it or not, parsing is a thing in the Classic games), it would drive people away from alliance faction.
this is not in the same avenue as dual spec.
But that lolly dun differs from the TBC Classic I dun remember when I was just a wee lad.
And now, are ye tryin’ ta shuv ya nose inta muh TBC Classic fun, now are yah? That dun ruffle me sumthin fierce I tells ya!
Profits OP is not about why dual specs should be in the game with the appropriate backing that clearly supports that idea. For good reason I imagine, there is none. Players simply wanting convenience is not an argument for dual specs, its a request. Its an opinion on what Profits thinks makes a better game for Profits. Some people think the game is better without dual specs. This is a I think PvE is better than PvP trollfest where one guy thinks his opinion/preference is superior to the other for no other reason than he supports it. Then just spin the hell out of everything to obfuscate the fact that you dont really have a leg to stand on.
So Profits dodges that completely like any loser fraud would and makes it about “dispelling myths” of how dual specs will work in Profits theory which is a joke all by itself because its all speculation and anecdotal evidence spewed by someone who is quite openly biased on the matter. Profits is not making an argument, Profits is having a tantrum.
Well, not just you but even so I didnt do that. I left it open - either youre telling me the truth or youre yanking my chain. Im just stating that both scenarios still have really crappy outcomes for some players regardless of where your coming from.
Someone who talks about wanting to play TBC because they want to play TBC and doing exactly what they prefer can’t be taken the least bit seriously when they say they’re also being punished for playing. Repeatedly at that. I guess thats what you wanted right? Obviously not so make up your mind. First off, its contradictory and second that’s a personal judgment call and not a fact. Its not on the players or the game to assuage your angsty personal disposition towards TBC.
You already have options and the ability to do what you want. Youre not a victim here so why pretend?
Well its settled then. Exercise some damn patience and wait for WotLK.
Im not against dual spec folk lobbying for their own TBC convenience server that they can transfer too, for free, to enjoy their preferred version of TBC however. That’s good enough, right?
I said that already and you disagreed with it, lol. You are clearly of the opinion that your opinion is better but whatever. I hope you didnt feel punished when replying to me.
Oh we’re back to this again. You forfeited this with your self afflicted victimhood but what the heck. TBC and the classic revival overall where largely about playing these games the way they were made. It wasn’t perfect and not going to be but that wasnt a realistic expectation to begin with.
There were no dual specs in TBC. You can point to all the little tweaks made to the 2021 version of TBC but that doesn’t help you in any way because there is nothing recommending dual specs be implemented other than the players which wasn’t necessarily the case with the rest. Players don’t directly drive development they indirectly drive it. Dual specs don’t fit into the category where players get to actually make that call through some democratic process. Its not a democracy and you cant always get what you want.
Besides all that, going off your own statement, the people who want to play TBC are playing it and the ones who dont are not. There’s nothing broken there to fix. Youre just greedy and arent shy about it but neither do you want to be held accountable for it.
Business as usual.
Sure it is, it’s outside of #nochanges.
Or are you only #nochanges when it’s convenient?
“Both scenarios” ? You haven’t even begun to justify anything in your mind actually exists. You’re assuming my position for me even though you have no clue what it is. 
Case in point. Quote me even saying this. In fact, I know I’ve said on occasion that this isn’t TBC. This is TBC Classic and is decidedly different from the OG. No idea who you’re having a conversation with here but it sure isn’t me.
Yeah, you’re definitely having a conversation with someone who isn’t me. Maybe quote me saying any of this first and then trying to refute it. Otherwise this is just bippity-boppity. 
Why wait for a game that already came out? Might as well be telling me to replay TBC. Except I’m playing TBC Classic.
You’re not even making any sense now. Wait for a game that already came out?
How did I disagree with you when you just quoted me saying not that? 
Are you okay, dude? You need some help?
Yeah, you circled back, so I’ll just go back to what I said. Maybe try to move on instead of circling the drain.
This isn’t TBC. This is TBC Classic with #SomeChanges.
We are playing a 15-year old game for the very reasons you’re saying don’t work and don’t exist. Try again.
That’s a brilliant! Did you figure that out all by yourself?
The devs have said otherwise. Repeatedly.
I’m greedy because I want a change for the sake of convenience that the majority of the community also wants?
Megarune getting ready to post about Ralph of the Lich King.
I 100% agree on every single one of your points Now personally for me I would say just make it so you can’t respect Is in dungeons or raids.
It’s just to solve that problem if it really is an issue but honestly honestly I just don’t see a being a problem.
Rolllll credits.
You dont have an argument or claim of any kind. You have a love of convenience and an agenda to support it. Thats it.
No kind sir (hurtful rudeness redacted for the sake of the person who can dish it out but cant handle it when its returned) Im saying that any position you take on any matter regardless of your intentions is still a position I dont want to be in. I dont want to live in your fantasy world. Youre offering me A or B when I want option C but C is scrubbed off the list because god forbid you cant control everything.
So, like what? Because its not 2008 anymore you should get dual specs? How many straws you got left to grasp? Who am I kidding, probably an infinite amount. You could go through most of them and still not get close. Youre not entitled to dual specs why are you even arguing the point.
He’s getting rude now. Enjoy your forum vacation.
I do so love abject rejections of any contrary position. Makes arguing easier!
TBC doesn’t have dual specs now and didnt back in the day. The reason for this is simple - You dont need dual specs to play TBC. TBC wasnt released for the benefit of people who like dual specs. There’s no conspiracy or evil priesthood preventing you from getting dual specs. You’re not owed dual specs just because you think dual specs are a good idea and you would benefit from them. You just want them. You want them because they are convenient. You like it when things are convenient.
Dual specs are being touted as mandatory and necessary but all the empirical evidence suggests the complete opposite. They’re optional and not required at all - thats not your stance though - you’re going to great lengths to avoid acknowledging the most basic facts of the matter - youre problem isnt with the purists its with reality.
Troll 101: Trick everyone into thinking its everyone’s problem so you can spin your shill tires as long as possible, paint dual specs in a noble and loving light to both promote your agenda and disguise your greed so you can then pretend like you got a legitimate claim to dual specs - the proof of which comes in the form of the people you demonize for justifiably disagreeing with your troll position and tactics. You cant lose! Talk about convenience, lol.
Thats the kind of trouble one has to go to when they lost the debate from jump street with the understanding that the truth of the matter (youre somewhat lazy and entitled, want something you dont need or deserve, can only ask for with no guarantees but want guaranteed anyway and to hell with pretty much everything else) isnt a good look or likely to garner much support.
Youre free to delude yourself as hard and as long as you like.
I don’t even know who he is arguing with right now. Some imaginary person. Probably made of dead grass.
Checkmate.
Here it is, have some copium.
That’s a picture of a fire extinguisher.
#somechanges makes this a neat fact, but irrelevant.
You don’t need:
…to play TBCC, and yet we got them.
No one has said otherwise.
No one has said otherwise.
Yes, and the benefits those conveniences bring.
No one has made this claim.
Given no one has made the claim, I’m unsure how any evidence can refute a position no one holds.
Yes.
…wut (See above)
…wut x2
PS - This is why you goobers trying to gatekeep the lapsed purity of TBCC is not treated seriously. I, and others, have repeatedly stated positions that you argue as if we don’t hold them. You just created a grand strawman to slay in this post in which you claim we hold stances contrary to our posts and we’re here telling you, for the umpteenth time, that you’re just making up people to be mad about that aren’t us.
I gotta stand up for Kuma here, their stance has been pretty firm in convenience.