Refuting the common arguments against Dual Spec

Kumasama-westfall · September 1, 2021, 4:23am

Sure it is.

Lukesta-arugal · September 1, 2021, 1:16pm

That is hilarious coming from you, zero self awareness

Talaran-myzrael · September 1, 2021, 1:31pm

Kerg:

Profits:

… this is just an appeal to emotion, not an actual argument.

Everything you posted is just your opinion, and also an appeal to emotion, just like the other side.

Profits:

Neither was the Tinnitus debuff. Or paladins having both factions’ seals. Or having only Kara/Gruul/Mag available at launch. Or Horde vs Horde battlegrounds. etc. etc.

The line has to be drawn somewhere. Those changes were introduced to fix obvious problems that made or would have made the game play out very differently than was intended in 2007. For example, drums without tinnitus in 2021 would have completely broken the profession aspect of the game, a part of the game that a lot of people enjoy.

Lack of dual spec is not an obvious problem that breaks the game. It wasn’t in 2007 and it isn’t now. The game is great without it. It’s just a modern feature that some modern gamers want added. That’s it.

And you didn’t address what I think is the primary reason for not adding dual spec. As I said, dual spec is not needed to fix a game breaking problem. It is just a modern feature that some modern gamers want added, which makes it not much different than transmog, dungeon finder, LFR, pet battles, and all the rest of the crap that differentiates retail from Classic.

And if Blizzard gives in to the dual spec people, those who want those other modern features will be emboldened and never shut up until they get a TBC with all the retail features they want. Best to quarantine that disease before it spreads, IMO.

The entire reason Classic exists is because people wanted a version of the game without modern features. A version of the game from a different era where the developers had a completely different (and many would argue better) vision of what constitutes good game design. And if you don’t agree that the older game design is better, then why are you even here? It’s a legitimate question.

I couldn’t have said it better myself. Well done.

Arielba-sulfuras · September 1, 2021, 1:38pm

not an argument

oh you mean like the babies who say needing to pay 50g to respec is ‘not fun’? wah wah wah?

Intolerable-atiesh · September 1, 2021, 1:59pm

Then you’re as clueless as he is.

Profits-mankrik · September 1, 2021, 5:30pm

Not an argument.

Insulting me is also not an argument.

yep, blizzard is going to add dual spec today, and then tomorrow they’re gonna add LFD, LFR, cross-realm zones, 4 different raid difficulties, oversimplified gear, Torghast, Garrisons, and Pet Battles

lmao

yourlogicalfallacyis . com/slippery-slope

educate yourself

Fuzzydice-earthfury · September 1, 2021, 5:38pm

Blizzard I would pay real money in the store for Dual Spec and LFD!

Obsidioun-bigglesworth · September 1, 2021, 5:42pm

You have to type an essay to try to argue in favor of dual spec.

But Refuting dual spec is easy: Go to retail.

Fuzzydice-earthfury · September 1, 2021, 5:44pm

The easier option is to cancel your subscription.

Obsidioun-bigglesworth · September 1, 2021, 5:45pm

Go to retail now! All your fantasy gaming choices are there.

Fuzzydice-earthfury · September 1, 2021, 5:49pm

nah it sucks there… classic with #somechangesbutonlythechangesyoulikearetherightones is apparently the way to go.

Obsidioun-bigglesworth · September 1, 2021, 5:49pm

Time to switch clients to retail for you.

Fuzzydice-earthfury · September 1, 2021, 5:53pm

I don’t like the talent trees in retail…really Wrath is where I want to be but I have to wait for that.

Kerg-bloodsail-buccaneers · September 1, 2021, 5:59pm

Educate yourself by reading your own link and understanding it. It talks about “extreme hypotheticals” and “lack of proof.” But that does not apply to this situation. Why? Because we have 14 years of historical record that shows what is likely to happen if we start down that path. So the hypotheticals are not at all extreme, and the historical record serves as credible evidence to support the slippery slope argument in this case.

Do I think that all of those things you listed will come to pass if dual spec is added? No. But it’s entirely reasonable to believe that if one unnecessary modern feature is added then there is a good chance that others will follow, because it happened before.

Fuzzydice-earthfury · September 1, 2021, 6:04pm

Like HvH BGs?

Thereza-netherwind · September 1, 2021, 6:07pm

“muhhh my dual spec”
Just wait until WoTLK where dual spec is introduced.

K thx bai.

Fuzzydice-earthfury · September 1, 2021, 6:10pm

Just wait until later in life when Merc mode was introduced for HvH BGs…

K thx bai.

Thereza-netherwind · September 1, 2021, 6:13pm

Well, I agree. Mercenary mode will be introduced later, which allows you to actually be transformed into an alliance character (even have their OP racials that they try to masquerade as bad).

HxH BG is something new, and different.

Bye.

Qbert-fairbanks · September 1, 2021, 6:13pm

“Wah i cant afford to respec”

Okay, that’s a problem with being poor and making no effort at farming, not the game.

Snerflebutts-sargeras · September 1, 2021, 6:14pm

fact: the only people who don’t want dual spec in the game are dad gamers who log in once every two three days on their BM hunter and dont see why anyone else in the game would respec ever.