Reconsidering the Ban on GDKPs in Classic WoW

We get it, your gold selling business has taken a hit. Stop trying to bring back GDKP.

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Don’t the other players just get that players gold then?

Era got a massive boost during Wrath because of GDKP.

People saw they could go on their old toons gathering dust, and join a viable pickup group. Regardless of the ban, the amount of effort and attitude towards respecting peoples time is noticeably different in a GDKP pug vs any other type of pug.

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No. Stay on Era where you belong.

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GDKPs would be awesome if gold buying/selling was actually banned. Raiding to see who has the biggest limit on their credit card completely defeats the point of logging into the game. If you want to see GDKPs come back hold blizzard accountable for the rampant botting issues and gold buying.

I just want to sell carry dungeon drops again. It all just hard res groups now.

This is just a lie. Era was slowly gaining population immediately after Wrath released, and it really started gaining steam after Ulduar was on farm for most guilds. If anything this crowd of Wrath migrants brought this vapid GDKP culture with them.

If little Timmy only has 1% of T3 Chad’s coinpurse, the amount that little Timmy stands to lose over a big upgrade is pennies to T3 Chad. He gets an extra 50g on a 200g pot at the end of the ZG even though he loses a cloak that could last till AQ and T3 Chad basically commits highway robbery by paying a miniscule amount of his capital. It’s even worse when T3 Chad’s alt has no gear and hasn’t been doing any dps the entire raid, meanwhile Timmy took his time to farm out a neat preraid set and try to play the game. I’ve seen this happen dozens of times to new Era players. It’s a toxic top heavy system.

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How many groups does this actually happen in because I’ve attended many GDKPs and have only seen a couple instances of anything relatively close to this level of fearmongering?

Join another GDKP or make your own. Again, you get the gold from these toxic players and it’s unrealistic to think that they’ll do this all the time since it offers them no reward/progression. The whole point of raiding in the first place.

Plus, it’s still better leaving the raid with that toxic players gold versus any other loot system where you walk out empty handed.

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You’re just holding W and not paying attention to the game around you if you don’t notice this stuff. I’ve seen it on both factions.

Again, you’re just ignoring basic economics. Anyone with lots of gold gets to bully people with little gold, and the reward they get for missing a big item is pennies on the dollar. The only time you get to reap real rewards from missing that item as a new player is if two people with large wallets throw down on something. Other than that it’s big fish eat little fish 90% of the time and you leave with virtually nothing.

GDKP not only allows but encourages toxic behavior by being able to bid someone over with your gold. I’ve seen people buy items from someone they can’t even use out of spite. Any shenanigans where there are clear and concise rules like 2SR makes your raid look bad, where as buying someone else’s item to grief them is just business.

Regardless over GDKPs ethics, it shouldn’t be allowed when Blizzard can barely handle bots. It’s like smoking in a house soaked in gasoline.

There’s toxic play in any group, not just GDKPs. Have you ever heard of Loot Councils?

Again, you leave the group with the toxic players gold. That’s a way bigger W then leaving with nothing because you were told that item isn’t your classes MS and goes to another more deserving class or you just lose all your rolls.

What do you think the other 38 people want in the group too? More gold or you getting your cheap upgrades? You’re being selfish.

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I’m being selfish because I’m completely fine being apart of a unit with 39 other people and even if I lose the item it’s still hopefully staying within my core raid roster. Sure, bud.

GDKP is an anti-social system for anti-social players that just want immediate gratification and personal gain, nothing else.

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So how does that apply in a pug?

Raiding shouldn’t be limited to playing with the same group the same time the same days every week. That’s not more sociable either then playing with a pool of players from different guilds during different times and different days.

That’s also not to say you can’t do a combination of the two, which many people try and want to do.

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I’m in gdkp discords who have ran longer than your guild lmfao.

It is a community, you just were never invited to the discord gdkps, your experience seems to be random trade chat gdkps and those are garbage, those are alright guys kill 4 bosses and disband.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

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I Hate GDKP, thank you Blizz for this BAN! :slight_smile:

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I have friends in the highroller alli GDKPs lol, that doesn’t mean lows of GDKP don’t exist. If the trade chat GDKPs are dog then the argument that GDKP has higher quality pugs is just untrue I guess.

I’ve been playing vanilla since you were leveling up your garrison in WoD, dog.

I was in a top 50 US guild in vanilla called everlasting vendetta on dark iron.

The only thing you’ve been doing is being dog at wow your whole life

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Never heard of em. Must’ve not been that good.

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It’s because you’re a nobody.

We were clearing Naxx and you would be the guy in the city looking at our gear wishing you were that good

Looks like something’s never change huh

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It’s because it was 20 years ago when most players didn’t use keybinds and were dog. Now you’re middle of the pack and aging and lashing at others. Hate to see it.

I could’ve shown you my naxx gear but you dodged the duel. Doubly hate to see it.