Reconsider the nerfs

The last expansion didn’t last two years and as they have said they plan a faster release cadence its highly doubtful this one will either.

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Why don’t you leave the mage forums and go to the Evoker forums? You have nothing productive to say and I’m sure mages are tired of reading your rationalizations for being constantly wrong.

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Why don’t you leave the mage forums and go to the Evoker forums? You have nothing productive to say and I’m sure mages are tired of reading your rationalizations for being constantly wrong.

Yes this is exactly why i am disappointed. Sunfury was very smooth and synergetic. Missile procs make or break spellslinger. There are dry spells at the wrong time where missiles just refuses to proc. For instance just now on the dummy I barrage into a mini no missile procs, blast blast barrage into orb, still no missiles blast bast blast, magi wears off, still no missiles procs. Blast blast oom. Evo still 45 secs left…

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So is that like, medium rare?

I have no idea where you are looking but as of currently, all 3 specs are below the halfway point.

This is a balancing failure tbh. No class that that has only DPS specs should be below the median out of all classes since it’s literally the only thing they are able to do.

Also, going from top 3 to bottom 10 is incredibly drastic and something they stated themselves they wanted to avoid doing. Not to mention the incredible downgrade to Arcane’s gameplay and rotation with the inclusion of the Aethervision talent replacing the double dipping mechanic.

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But they aren’t as of the current to date the highest mage spec is 17 out of 26. That is inside the median range.

Do you have a source for this cause everything I see says they want to avoid that outside of major patches the .0s and .5s. This being a .5 patch fits into what they said from what I can see.

17 out of 26 is below the median, that’s just math. And we’re talking the best out of all 3 specs here, with 2 others being worse than that.

What I was referring to when nerfing classes is when they said they didn’t want to implement drastic changes that would bring a class/spec down too much. I don’t remember where they said it though.

26 devided by 3 is 8.666666666666 so any between that and 17.22222222222222 is the median. That’s how math works

frost mage is not broken in pvp not while MM hunters and elemental are blowing people up they are both hard counters to mages. Frost mage is A-tier atm so its good just not god tier broken for 99% of players.

Also it depends on what game mode you are talking about.

Was that a troll post

Median is the equal value range betwen the top and the bottom. Are you confusing what I said with the word average or something else by any chance?

Yes median is the 50th percentile. 17 out of 26 is the 35th percentile, therefore it s worse than the median lmao.

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Lemme bust out the math text book for ya. Median range, the range between two derivative values.

Yes thr median aka the 50th percentile. Samething. 17 out of 26 is worse than the median, half of all specs are worse than the median. All 3mage specs are, which is a uncommon occurence (1/8 under randomness). Anything else?

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Ok you have a failure of reading comprehension not the actual math

Range being the keyword.

Your either disingenuous or a troll. Thats like saying someone is in a ok spot financially because they are in the middle class range making 38k a year, while the median range for that is 34k to 103k. No one actually making 38k a year would agree with that. Your the one lacking comprehension in your attempts to twist data to fit your narrative, not the rest of us.

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You started the argument by bringing up the 50% mark, then you started talking about median range. The median of 1 through 26 is 13.5, which all 3 Mage specs are below. I don’t know how you are trying to justify that as being balanced, but you are failing at that, because it isn’t.

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There is nothing balanced about mage right now in any spec.

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It’s been a long time since I’ve done any real math, however, I’ve never heard the term “Median range” as a single concept in my life.

Besides that, why are you are trying to calculate two derivative values? We’re looking at a chart of ranked placements. It’s a straight line. Whatever two derived values you’ve come up with are going to be the same because the slope of the graph is uniform.

My calculus is bad at best, but the statistical terms you’re looking for are either quartiles or standard deviations. Standard deviations are what make up a normal distribution, and are probably close to what you’re looking for. ~68% of all data in a normal distribution falls within one standard deviation of the set. In this case, since we’re looking at ranks, I believe a standard deviation is somewhere close to 7.5. Which means the center 8 ranks would be where most of the data would fall. Arcane would either be the very last rank to meet that standard deviation or just one short of it.

But we’re also not looking at a normal distribution, so none of that matters. It’s a flat graph. Each step in the x axis is exactly 1 y value above the previous. So this isn’t a normal distribution.

We’re looking at the ranks of 26 dps specs, starting at 1.
The RANGE is 25.
The MEDIAN is 13.5
ARCANE is the highest dps (lowest ranked) of all 3 mage specs in Mythic Raid content
ARCANE is rank 17
17 > 13.5
THEREFORE Arcane is below the median of all damage dealing specs in wow in Mythic Raid content right now. (Okay, technically it’s above the median, but we’re effectively doing an inverse calculation since 1 is considered “higher” than 2 in terms of rankings)

If “Median Range” is a real term in mathematics that I’m not familiar with, please feel free to show your work and teach us all a lesson. Otherwise we’re all going to just assume you’re moving the goalposts and randomly dividing things by other random things because you were wrong and not capable of admitting to the fact that you were disproved on the internet.

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