Rearranging and Removing Portals

[Tarc-fenris (Tarc)]

That’s what I was saying earlier, but I’ve been flamed up and down. I agree 100%.

There a few sane voices here, as with most things in life, people go out of their way to complain, but rarely out of their way to praise. Which is why it looks so disproportionate here.

[Xyrtran-medivh]

dont worry “litty” man you will have your expansion soon enough… for now be a litty man and let the adults be free to express them even if you don’t like them.

[Rekknots-lightnings-blade (Rekknots)]

Lorethelin is suggesting that we are “complainers”… However what he doesn’t realize is that he is a complainer complaining about “complainers”.

I guess when you are the 1% you have to post a lot and ignore responding to valid criticism in order to believe that you must be right.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

The ones loyally playing the game since Classic, not the newcomers who have entitlement complexes.

entitled?
Oh…you mean entitled like feeling like I owe them my sub fees for three accounts when they pointlessly remove portals for no good reason that have been there for eons just to get a rise out of the playerbase

[Rilyanna-dragonblight (Rilyanna)]

The ones loyally playing the game since Classic, not the newcomers who have entitlement complexes.

I’ve been playing, with 2 breaks, since 2005.

BTW, I have no nostalgia for Classic, but I still think that it is a good thing for those that want to play it.

[Suishi-barthilas (Suishi)]

LOL your plan to increase MAU turns into decrease in subs number instead.

Blizzard

[Verdre-silvermoon (Verdre)]

I regret resubbing with gold major yikes from me this game is going down hill fast.

I’m down to like 30 days of game time. I’m borderline ready to just give all my stuff to guildies and let my sub expire. Not doing a “i quit”. Just really this is pushing me hard to say “F it!” and move on and find greener pastures.

[Valestia-wyrmrest-accord (Valestia)]

Of course theyre lying.
Do you know NOTHING about PR?
You NEVER tell the customer the bad crap son.

Taienna, would be it possible for you to slow down for a moment from the rapid-fire responses? You’re wrapping my words into Rankin’s and making it look like he’s saying what I am, and this isn’t the first time.

This isn’t a race, the forums won’t explode before you get the next reply in.

youll have to talk to blizzard about their crappy quoting in here, Im sorry to say.
They’ll get on that right after they fix the ‘in combat’ bug in about 10 years when all the portals and summoning stones have gone missing.

Because you know, funneling players into a barrel like cuttlefish is more important than making them HAPPY.

[Lorethelin-emerald-dream]

Angry people are always going to be the majority on forum Blue Posts. The people who are happy just log back into the game and keep playing. I came here to post to let the Devs know that there are many of us out there who support this move.

[Vhx-kiljaeden]

Wonder if this thread will beat the other thread. 4989 posts and counting on that one!

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

Can you port to Shattrath and talk to the Zephyr NPC? She was not on the list of removals that I am aware of.

Assuming she’s not being removed, she requires Revered with Keepers of Time. The other CoT portals had no such requirement.

[Spanko-kiljaeden (Spanko)]

Three people that I’ve seen and the rest hate it. Many more dislike it.

[Aeolyn-greymane (Aeolyn)]

That’s what I was saying earlier, but I’ve been flamed up and down. I agree 100%.

There a few sane voices here, as with most things in life, people go out of their way to complain, but rarely out of their way to praise. Which is why it looks so disproportionate here.

Or, you know, its a dumb change and people are reacting accordingly. But no, probably insanity like you said.

Self righteous like a champ there, mate.

[Spiçy-area-52 (Spiçy)]

Literally dozens of you

[Yuggothfungi-wyrmrest-accord]

Massive outrage over a change, proceeds with change. Sounds about right.

[Troo-undermine]

I was going for humor there… misquoting that quote from Blizzcon that went over so well.

[Lejk-nagrand (Lejk)]

So basically…

"We saw and heard what you thought about the removal of portals but it’s our game and we know better. So we are not implementing any of the changes suggested.

Oh, and we actually meant to remove stuff earlier, but we forgot."

That’s what is being said here right? Activision’s hubris knows no bounds.

[Neboulas-stormrage]

Translation:

So, we used to have this habit of removing portals when a new expansion launched, like when we moved them from the capital cities in Cata to the shrines in MoP. But, then we got lazy, forgot to do it when WoD launched, which didnt even have capital cities, which removed the portal issue completely. Then we added some in Legion and now we’re like ‘whoa man, weren’t we supposed to like remove portals when an expansion launches?’ - ‘Oh wow, we’re late, quick let’s get rid of them all now before anyone notices’

Dear Blizzard: They noticed.

[Leialoha-farstriders]

As we read most everything posted here (and elsewhere) about next week’s content update, we can’t help but be impacted by the subject of transportation portal removal. It’s a subject that’s approaching 5000 replies in one thread alone, and the question raised there, repeatedly, has been, “why?” Here’s the answer to that question.

From the beginnings of World of Warcraft, game designers have had a number of guiding principles. Sometimes these notions change quickly, and sometimes they evolve slowly, but a few guiding principles have remained more or less the same throughout WoW’s history. One such lodestar has been “don’t overuse portals between locations in the world”. Too many eliminations of the distances between places can diminish a sense of the world having a meaningful size.

Of course there’s an equal and opposite design consideration—“don’t make it too inconvenient to get from most places to most other places”. Some amount of convenience is vital. Not every visit to a wondrous landscape is your first. We know when it’s your 100th visit, you don’t want the flight over to be the bulk of your time spent. And of course, some players have chosen to play as Warlocks or Mages specifically because those classes offer unique means of transport.

With new expansions, we’ve made a tradition of removing some of the portals from the previous expansion’s cities. The goal with that is to encourage transportation flow through newer places where players are more likely to interact with other players. We neglected to do that initially following Legion (and we never did that following Mists of Pandaria for various reasons), but we feel that we should have. We’re correcting that now.

Boralus and Dazar’alor will continue to offer portals to a full range of capital cities, as well as to Silithus. The portals to Cataclysm zones will remain intact, and many other modes of transportation, such as Dalaran Signet Rings, Karazhan’s ring, the Timeless Isle trinket, Coordination Cloaks, and boats and zeppelins between many regions, will all be retained and functional.

However, we’ve seen how updates to the game can leave the means of accessing different areas feeling increasingly chaotic. For example— today if you go to the Cleft of Shadows in Orgrimmar, you’ll find it dotted with portals in a way that almost looks sporadic. We’re cleaning that up, and we see this as an opportunity to consolidate a lot of travel into a consistent venue with a consistent look and feel, and room for future growth when needed.

We’ve processed a lot of feedback on this, especially feedback about specific locations that feel like they’re going to become disproportionately inconvenient to reach, and we’ve followed that feedback through to the conclusion that you’re seeing on the PTR. We believe that the numerous remaining means of quick access in the game make most locations quite reachable.

If there are any specific locations that feel as though they’re about to become unreasonably inaccessible, we’re certainly open to adding additional means of travel in the future.

Communicate this to the devs:

I feel sorry for you guys. You either have bean counters telling you to make changes in the game that you KNOW aren’t fun for anyone, or you really have lost sight on what makes WoW fun.

[Xyrtran-medivh]

good if you support it say you’re happy and disagree and move on…

or like you said… “grow a spine”