Rearranging and Removing Portals

[Saffren-amanthul]

Anyone else have an issue with these forums where if you scroll up to some invisible line in a thread, it will start skipping up, like ten or more posts at a time? I end up waaay further than I wanted to go.

Yep, I’ve got the same thing, and it’s really frustrating. Blizzard is doing a fantastic job with the forums, similar to the job they are doing on WoW.

What I mean by that is, I used to read the forums every day, now I check maybe once a week if that. I don’t think I’m the only one, as they seem really dead.

Now, you can extrapolate from my forum experience to my experience of the game itself, it’s quite similar, as I’m pretty much only logging on to raid these days.

Time played = a lot less than it used to be. Well done Blizz!!

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

I do not believe that you’re able to port from a to b, to get to c, with only 15 seconds of travel time.
(and even if it was possible, you’re estimating that you’re spending 30 seconds in load screen time, which means you’re not accounting for the time spent travelling to the portals)

This is why i was asking for actual data.

are you starting on Broken Shore, or Dal? “Broken Shore Dalaran” is not a place.
it’s either Broken Shore, or Dalaran.

First off, okay, it’s “Broken Isles” Dalaran, not “Broken Shore”. My bad. (That’s what the teleport is called on my mage.)

I didn’t ask “a to b to get to c”. I specifically asked “Broken Shore (sic) Dalaran to Caverns of Time”. I don’t care about how long it takes to get to Broken Isles Dalaran because I just timed it at 15 seconds (hearth plus load screen). I do care about a faster way to get to Caverns of Time without the portal. Using the in-game stop watch, I just now timed how long it took my character to run from the portal zone-in (in Broken Isles Dalaran) into the Hall of the guardian (or whatever it’s called) down into the basement, and through the CoT portal. I did use a 310% speed flying mount from the zone-in point, but I wasn’t already mounted before I started the timer. It took a whopping 28 seconds, including loading screen to CoT.

So, there is your actual data. Fifteen seconds to Dalaran. Another 28 seconds to Caverns of Time. Total travel time: Forty Three seconds from anywhere in WoW to Caverns of Time using the portal in the basement of Broken Isles Dalaran. The portal that will be removed on Tuesday with no equivalent replacement.

Now I was 100% sincere in my original query to you. I would very much like an alternative route that even approaches the speed of the route I’ve been using. Once that portal is removed on Tuesday, the only option I see is going to Org or Stormwind, getting to the Uldum portal, and flying up to Tanaris. The few of my alts who have access to the BfA portal rooms can make their way to those rooms and use the Silithus portal, then fly over. Either of those options is many minutes as opposed to seconds. Exactly how many varies greatly per character and from where they are leaving. In my original way, it never mattered where they were because they all had a Broken Isles Dalaran hearthstone.

I have now given you the actual data you requested. It currently takes me 43 seconds to get from anywhere in WOW to Caverns of Time, using the portal in Broken Isles Dalaran.

he isnt looking for data…or to try to understand.
Look at his posts. Hes here to argue with you REGARDLESS of what your point is or how your game is negatively affected.
Id not waste time with him or the others at this point.

[Zaranara-spirestone]

If people find immersion in raking a ground mount over decade+ old content then they can already do that. Some of us have seen these places for literal weeks of game time already, and all you’re making us do is AFK on an auto-run flying mount or on a flight path. You’re basically making us not play your game but bumping up your statistics. It’s a real player centric model. What I want to know is why you guys thought this was a good idea. Most of the community hates it and in the 15 or so years this game has been out, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a “too many portals” complaint. If you want people to play more, make the game more fun. Don’t just mandate us to being logged in longer to get to the content we actually want.

[Hockeybalboa-whisperwind (Hockeybalboa)]

If there are any specific locations that feel as though they’re about to become unreasonably inaccessible, we’re certainly open to adding additional means of travel in the future.

Caverns of Time has been mentioned numerous times and not once do you mention anything about it. You know the removal of the Dala portal to CoT is a huge inconvenience for a huge amount of people and you refuse to acknowledge it here in this post.

[Elenedhel-moon-guard]

I’m all out of likes, generous soul that I am.
So here’s a
and a few more words to support your post, regards the silliness of some people.
Flips hair

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

If people find immersion in raking a ground mount over decade+ old content then they can already do that. Some of us have seen these places for literal weeks of game time already, and all you’re making us do is AFK on an auto-run flying mount or on a flight path. You’re basically making us not play your game but bumping up your statistics. It’s a real player centric model. What I want to know is why you guys thought this was a good idea. Most of the community hates it and in the 15 or so years this game has been out, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a “too many portals” complaint. If you want people to play more, make the game more fun. Don’t just mandate us to being logged in longer to get to the content we actually want.

yeah…the view that says ‘more travel time = immersion’ really boggles the mind.
Not sure how boring the lives are of others, but wasting MY personal time by adding more travel time doesnt make the immersion better and i have to wonder about the integrity of anyone who says it does.
STORY increases immersion
CONTENT increases immersion.
wasting my game playing time needlessly just ticks me off.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

I’m all out of likes, generous soul that I am.
So here’s a
and a few more words to support your post, regards the silliness of some people.
Flips hair

yeah…every time my timer says I should be getting more likes it pretty much resets. No clue if theyre doing that intentionally but look at the first few posts…how many likes they got.
Seems odd that they dropped down so low after that.
Almost as if someone is making it that way for a reason.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

As we read most everything posted here (and elsewhere) about next week’s content update, we can’t help but be impacted by the subject …

If there are any specific locations that feel as though they’re about to become unreasonably inaccessible, we’re certainly open to adding additional means of travel in the future.

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I just hope that one day Blizzard can stop making random changes that aren’t needed. Many of us have a hard time believing most of you even play your own game as changes like this, the bugs, and the overall quality of the stuff that goes live.

These changes make no sense.

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We neglected to do that initially following Legion (and we never did that following Mists of Pandaria for various reasons), but we feel that we should have. We’re correcting that now.

Worst decision ever. Unsubbed.

To everyone: vote with your wallets!

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What makes no sense to me is the idea of making us travel though areas that are no longer being supported. Anything beyond the current expansions areas are useless outside of leveling.

You guys want to make the world feel large again, but give us zero reason to explore and visit that world. So what’s your answer? Just make traveling through it painful. Yea, I’m just not buying this. This fits right into the making people stay logged in longer for your shareholder metric.

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I think that says most of what we need to know here.

[Nobully-blackrock (Nobully)]

First off, okay, it’s “Broken Isles” Dalaran, not “Broken Shore”. My bad. (That’s what the teleport is called on my mage.)

No, your mage does not have a teleport called “Broken Shore”.
It’s “Broken Isles”, just the same as every other mage.

Broken Shore is a different location, and has nothing to do with Dalaran… which is why i questioned the travel route.

I didn’t ask “a to b to get to c”. I specifically asked “Broken Shore (sic) Dalaran to Caverns of Time”.

you did… but you used the wrong name for the starting location, so don’t pretend it was a misunderstanding on my part.

Once that portal is removed on Tuesday, the only option I see is going to Org or Stormwind, getting to the Uldum portal, and flying up to Tanaris.

why is the Shattrath port to CoT not an option?

[Dreta-stormrage]

Give our portals back
Ty

[Spanko-kiljaeden (Spanko)]

Agreed. Portals please! Thanks in advance, Blizzard.

[Dreta-stormrage]

Agreed. Portals please! Thanks in advance, Blizzard.

Actually, don’t just give them back. Give us more. Build a portal nexus in every capital!

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

No, your mage does not have a teleport called “Broken Shore”.
It’s “Broken Isles”, just the same as every other mage.

Broken Shore is a different location, and has nothing to do with Dalaran… which is why i questioned the travel route.

This is just silly semantics, everyone else knew what was meant.

[Nobully-blackrock (Nobully)]

This is just silly semantics, everyone else knew what was meant.

rubbish.

a specific start location was given as Broken Shore.

i’ve never heard anyone refer to Dalaran as Broken Shore.

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

rubbish.

a specific start location was given as Broken Shore.

i’ve never heard anyone refer to Dalaran as Broken Shore.

Broken Shore, Broken Isles, it’s a mistake that you’re harping on to attack the credibility of their argument.

[Dreta-stormrage]

This is a pointless argument. Please get back to the point: this portal change is stupid.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

This is just silly semantics, everyone else knew what was meant.

They keep doing that. Nitpicking irrelevance to try to get any ‘win’ in their own minds they can.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

This is a pointless argument. Please get back to the point: this portal change is stupid.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

more gaming options…

[Elenedhel-moon-guard]

Agreed; time to let this antagonistic troll with a huge chip on his shoulder VERY much alone.
GODS I wish we had an ignore feature!
Flips hair