Rearranging and Removing Portals

[Brahmina-khadgar (Brahmina)]

I mentioned leveling tanaris because lots of people mentioned that tanaris is now a hassle to be reached by low level players who don’t have access to the portal. Since I never knew of a way to reach tanaris without boat or the uldum portal, I assumed they were making sense.

There are flight paths. It’s not the most optimal way to get there, no. But they exist.

[Verdre-silvermoon (Verdre)]

I am still so ticked off that Winnie, Tigger, Eeyore and CR are trapped in Alliance territory due to Ally 'bee fetishism.

I never understood the obsession about the bees, truth be told. Of course I guess this may be because I lived on a farm and my folks had a small bee farm. I’ve seen what bees are like.

But I’m sure there are similar pop culture references in Horde only territory.

It did make my day when I saw the group and it dawned on me what the reference was. Gave me a big smile.

[Wrynli-rivendare (Wrynli)]

Gating us by restricting our travel choices (portals, self-directed flying) in the hopes this creates the illusion of a “larger world” is lazy design and wishful thinking.

Worlds feel “large” when everything isn’t just flyover territory, y’know? And that’s not an argument for no-flying, just that there’s just very few reasons for seasoned, long-time players to stop and interact with old zones.

I’d be less salty about all this if we had good reasons to be out “exploring” the old world . . . but we don’t.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

Not only that, but some people like this change and Blizzard would then be risking their wrath if they backtracked on it.

Utter nonsense.
Theyd regain a little trust by actually HEARING the player base complaints.
There is no down side for their giving in on this and a high risk of lost subs if they dont.

[Lorethelin-emerald-dream]

only then, did I really see the beautiful game world many a Blizzard artist was paid sweet low wages to design.

That is not behooving of a green poster to post like that. That’s a low blow and unnecessary to the conversation at hand. Be unhappy. Attack the merits of the argument, but don’t take digs at the company just because your mad.

[Verdre-silvermoon (Verdre)]

there’s just very few reasons for seasoned, long-time players to stop and interact with old zones.

Many people have been saying that for years. Scaling of old zones isn’t helping as you can simply ignore zones you have zero interest in and maximize time in zones you do like while you level. This creating an even more patchwork levelling experience.

Legion was a breath of fresh air when it had a few quests that took us back to old zones. Sadly, it didn’t last.

[Ðirespirit-goldrinn]

The argument of bigger world is indeed really weird, but you made some flawed ones yourself.

The ban on flying mounts does not affect the old world and is not related to this change.

It was made with the intention of trying to fix the gameplay of: fly towards a guy, kill it, fly towards another one, killl and repeat, making the geography, mobs, roads, world pvp, etc… irrelevant.

[Blays-bloodhoof]

Why are you farming old herbs?

I’ll toss out this example but this is all Im saying because the AH will be swamped if I put much more.

Wildvine. I have gotten 6 of them in a single run that took about 20 minutes. 1200g each.
Do the math.

Now watch…the AH will be overrun on my server with wildvine

You don’t have to answer that question, tbh. If I want to farm copper to fill my bags, any reason is enough. It’s my time, so who cares.

[Hocksy-emerald-dream]

Not only that, but some people like this change and Blizzard would then be risking their wrath if they backtracked on it.

Utter nonsense.
Theyd regain a little trust by actually HEARING the player base complaints.
There is no down side for their giving in on this and a high risk of lost subs if they dont.

I’m having the darnedest time thinking up a forename surname for my FFIV character.
Haven’t had this problem since Dark age of Camelot.

[Kaurmine-area-52]

Worlds feel “large” when everything isn’t just flyover territory, y’know?

I can’t grasp this concept, maybe my autism is giving me an advantage because I know exactly how large the world is. All that’s accomplished by removing portals is making the world more annoying.

[Ðirespirit-goldrinn]

If you are using farming herbs as a justification of keeping the portal layout I want to know: Why are you doing this? How does this affect you? and even if you were affected, wouldn’t the market nature of it balance itself out?

So far I’m unaware of any reason to farm old herbs, and there probably is one because otherwise people wouldn’t do it. And I don’t think that taking 2 extra minutes to reach a farming zone where you can spend as much time as you want in is relevant.

[Hocksy-emerald-dream]

I laughed out loud reading it, artist are always paid low wages.
I thought only Horde didn’t have a sense of humour.

[Brahmina-khadgar (Brahmina)]

Not only that, but some people like this change and Blizzard would then be risking their wrath if they backtracked on it.

Hmm. The wrath of a dozen or so folks vs. the wrath of thousands. Which do I choose?

And exactly why would anyone care if the portals remained or were replaced in the portal rooms? They don’t have to use them. I mean, you’ve been saying it’s irrational to want the portals to remain. Would raging over them staying be any more rational?

Either way though, I think Blizzard has shown they don’t care about players’ “wrath” one little bit.

[Blays-bloodhoof]

That is not behooving of a green poster to post like that. That’s a low blow and unnecessary to the conversation at hand. Be unhappy. Attack the merits of the argument, but don’t take digs at the company just because your mad.

Are you mall police IRL? I’m super anti-MVP-posting-their-opinion-in-green as if it’s worth more than non-green, but this post made a great observation about flight, as well as a truthful comment about Blizzards wage controversy.

Also try rolling your window down and shaking your fist at people walking their dog off leash.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

Here are a few suggestions that I’ve compiled over many posts:

• Make teleportation scrolls craftable by scribes and sold on AH.
• Increase the loot drop chance of old content affected by the change.
• Add portals to northern eastern kingdoms and move the pandaria portal more to the center of the continent.
• Add a way to go to tanaris for leveling players of the appropriate level range.
• Make the taxi birds work like the flight whistle (no reason for the cinematic)

in other words…give INSTANT travel to replace INSTANT travel that didnt need to be screwed with in the first place

[Ðirespirit-goldrinn]

That is why I suggested keeping the old world relevant by scaling back characters to the appropriate level. This would make the world massive. Imagine being able to call your guildies, put on your old gear, and go slay the Lich King again, at the original difficulty. There is no reason why the difficulty of the old content should be reduced to absurdity.

[Wrynli-rivendare (Wrynli)]

Many people have been saying that for years. Scaling of old zones isn’t helping as you can simply ignore zones you have zero interest in and maximize time in zones you do like while you level. This creating an even more patchwork levelling experience.

Legion was a breath of fresh air when it had a few quests that took us back to old zones. Sadly, it didn’t last.

Exactly. I was THRILLED when Legion started sending us all over the world . . . thinking that Blizzard was taking some cool steps in the right direction.

Alas, it wasn’t a design philosophy, but an expac feature.

[Verdre-silvermoon (Verdre)]

I laughed out loud reading it, artist are always paid low wages.

Starving artist didn’t become a term without there being some proof behind it.

[Spanko-kiljaeden (Spanko)]

It’s like the world is ending all of a sudden for people who want BFA to be like classic. They think that everything will just stop because of something that makes players happy.

[Lorethelin-emerald-dream]

You have no way of knowing how many people are in favor of this vs against it. Forums are a very poor metric, firstly. Secondly, we all have our little bubbles. Most of the people in my guild are for this change. Most of your guild probably isn’t. Presuming is a dangerous business.